US Election & Presidency

(06-11-2024 09:14 )Cooper_temple Wrote:  Wanted Harris to win.
Had a feeling last night, Trump would win.
Why did it happen - Harris attacked Trump too much and not enough about policy on economy, immigration etc. Misinformation/Elon Musk played a huge part and also maybe the US just aren't ready for a women president.

The misinformation was huge. I had co workers telling more about all the shit they read online or heard in podcasts like it's the truth.

When Joe Rogan is your source of "truth", you're just totally lost

They just don't care about Womens/Trans/Gay/Minority Rights. Foreign matters are also not a concern

They care about their wallet and the pursuit of preserving what's in there

(06-11-2024 09:16 )southsidestu Wrote:  2024 has been the year of elections and the theme of those elections has been that it has been bad for incumbents. Whilst different candidates have had their own issues, be it the Tories & the mini-budget or Macron & his pension reforms, the one underlying current to all of it has been inflation & the cost of living.

Putin's invasion of Ukraine has completely upended the democratic world

Putin probably did more than upend the democratic he literally spun it on it's head.

(06-11-2024 09:15 )Cooper_temple Wrote:  

(06-11-2024 09:06 )lovebabes56 Wrote:  When you look at the way the US voting works my gut instinct tells me our voting system here would never work in America

You probably still would have got the same result but by a larger majority which would have been alarming.

The US system is so annoying, how can 7 states basically dictate who wins...

The invention of modern democracy in America had a touch of genius about it. The Electoral College made perfect sense at the time.

When news travels at the speed of horse & buggy, how could a voter in South Carolina possibly know the character and platform of a candidate from Massachusetts? So he voted for a local elector who would vote on his behalf. Genius.

Only problem is that news today travels at the speed of light. So the whole thing seems archaic and upside down.

But history counts.

We are still enshrining the “right to bear arms” because you never know when British redcoats will appear on the horizon to take their colonies back!


Back to the present … hopefully this huge political realignment will quell the harmful liberal instinct to wallow in pointless impeachments and investigations and AOC drama.

Let the man govern, go back to the drawing board, and figure out a way to win four years from now.

Errr...

And so it begins, Handmaid's Purge Idiocracy incoming. I fear for those that aren't straight, aren't white, aren't male, aren't Christian (or Jewish) and aren't wealthy that live in America. We should be worried about what is about to happen and all of the knock on effects around the world that it leads to. We rely on America too much.

Our world, I fear, is heading towards another global war, it may not be soon, but at some point the sheer amount of hate that we're seeing is going to bubble over, and if the people in charge at the time aren't the right people, then we are all in trouble. Even now, Putin may nuke Ukraine if Trump pulls America out of NATO and Israel may completely flatten Gaza. It's not like they have been holding back with Biden in charge, so with Trump, who knows how far Russian and Israel will go.

I am concerned. Unchecked power isn't something anyone should have.

It looks like the orange one has won.The good news for the uk he will end the war in Ukraine in a day saving us loads of money which we can put towards filling the 22billion black hole.Every cloud and all that.Fixed.

Even if he says he he can - he can't. Putin will do the complete wrap Trump round his little finger he'll get him to support him in crushing Ukraine in some way (most likdly financially,) then he'll turn on Trump when Trump's back is turned

(06-11-2024 08:31 )lovebabes56 Wrote:  Now you must be thinking : Do we take Vance, Musk, RFK Jr out along with Trump in one big hit to spare the world?

Why is that time after time after time you make posts calling for the killing of people?

Let's not make the mistake of thinking Trump was elected by a bunch of swivel-eyed right wing loons.
It's looking like he's won the popular vote this time as well. It's obvious the independent/swing voters have swung behind Trump in a big way. And it's not like they don't know what they'll be getting this time.

US domestic politics hasn't had much airtime over here in the last 4 years compared to the previous Trump presidency. It seems clear the Biden administration wasn't working for a lot of Americans. And Harris was guilty by association (again, wrong candidate).

A lot of them may have held their nose while voting, but that doesn't matter. A vote is a vote.

It's 8 years since 2016, and the Democrats have learnt fuck all. Not being Trump, isn't enough.

Starmer take note...

One thing I've seen a lot of online is people are struggling with wages etc and went for Trump coz they think will be better off - putting aside if that will happen or not, it's something Labour need to take note off, they will lose if people aren't feeling richer.