Bad Language and Microphones

I've always wondered why, when the girls talk into the mic, they are always asking for men to shove their 'clocks' into their various orifices? Surely the rules on swearing can't be that strict?!

I watched 'Green Street' on ITV the other day, and they were throwing around more "fucks" and "cunts" then a porn movie! Yet every time the girls chat into the mic on these, supposedly, 18+ channels they are always toning down there language.

Could this also be the reason why the mics aren't allowed to be left on sometimes? I would probably watch these channels alot more if i could actually hear the girls and not just the dodgy music. I understand that the girls, sometimes, have their callers on loudspeaker and they probably don't want their grunting broadcast to the rest of us. But in the circumstances when the callers aren't on loudspeaker, i don't see why we shouldn't be able to hear the girls half of the conversation?!

Anyway, that's my semi-rant over.

Cause if you want to hear the girl talk dirty, you phone in.

It's all about the money

Do think it's unfair that when they do go on the mics, they have to say "clock" and "muffin."
when there are horror movies or movies with heavy sex scenes that start at 9.
Ofcom are just dumb as fuck. I remember a series which was on channel 4, it was a guy cutting up dead bodies.... Think it was only on cause it was for "studying the human body."

(03-03-2010 09:22 )Shalashaska Wrote:  Cause if you want to hear the girl talk dirty, you phone in.

It's all about the money

Do think it's unfair that when they do go on the mics, they have to say "clock" and "muffin."
when there are horror movies or movies with heavy sex scenes that start at 9.
Ofcom are just dumb as fuck. I remember a series which was on channel 4, it was a guy cutting up dead bodies.... Think it was only on cause it was for "studying the human body."

And that's before we even get started on teen dramas like "skins" etc............

(03-03-2010 09:03 )laos_2003_uk Wrote:  I watched 'Green Street' on ITV the other day, and they were throwing around more "fucks" and "muffins" then a porn movie!

The babe channels content is regarded as advertising for their phone lines, rather than programmes, and Ofcom doesn't approve of crass language in advertising.

(03-03-2010 12:58 )aaron Wrote:  The babe channels content is regarded as advertising for their phone lines, rather than programmes, and Ofcom doesn't approve of crass language in advertising.

This is the problem, as is it doesn't matter whether it's a verbal or visual issue with the channels... OFCOM always try and "move the goalposts" to justify their position. The irony is because they keep doing this OFCOM just contradict themselves, which just creates a rod for their own back and encourages "malpractice". There are so many "loopholes" in OFCOM's rules & regulations, and this is a good example...

These channels are not exactly what anyone with any sense would consider "regular TV", where their advertising issue would be more understandable. So the phone sex channels definitely have a context case to justify the content verbally, as the girls cannot give a true indication of what to expect from the phone service due to being "verbally restricted" on the mic. This can sometimes make the girls come across patronising with their introductions before going on the phones, which can put off potential customers, and ironically will more likely encourage underage callers instead of adults. The same thing applies with text messages onscreen...

(03-03-2010 09:03 )laos_2003_uk Wrote:  I've always wondered why, when the girls talk into the mic, they are always asking for men to shove their 'clocks' into their various orifices? Surely the rules on swearing can't be that strict?!

I watched 'Green Street' on ITV the other day, and they were throwing around more "fucks" and "muffins" then a porn movie! Yet every time the girls chat into the mic on these, supposedly, 18+ channels they are always toning down there language.

Could this also be the reason why the mics aren't allowed to be left on sometimes? I would probably watch these channels alot more if i could actually hear the girls and not just the dodgy music. I understand that the girls, sometimes, have their callers on loudspeaker and they probably don't want their grunting broadcast to the rest of us. But in the circumstances when the callers aren't on loudspeaker, i don't see why we shouldn't be able to hear the girls half of the conversation?!

Anyway, that's my semi-rant over.

To be on the safe side Ofcom has more than one set of rules that can be used against shows they don't like. There's the Broadcast Code (obvious). If they can't get a show with that there's always the PhonePay rules. Last resort there's the advertising regulations.

PhonePay rules say you can't advertise premium rate phone services with sexually explicit content, and channels have been fined mega£ for doing that. Shows used to have babes using very graphic language until about 2006 or 2007 when - guess who - Ofcom - started using the PhonePay rules (formely known as ICTIS). I think some shows even broadcast both sides of 1-2-1 calls. Since then the language has been drastically toned down and silly euphemisms used.

Ironically using euphemisms like "clocks" and "tommy tanking" makes no difference to acceptability under the rules about so called Adult-Sex shows, protecting children and generally accepted standards, as Ofcom showed in Broadcast Bulletins 95 (' “She’s looking for some mutual tommy tanking” (rhyming slang meaning masturbation)' - LiveXXXBabes in breech of rules 1.3, 1.24, 2.1 and 2.3) and 118 ('a voiceover periodically referred to “mutual tommy-tanking”. ' - LiveXXXBabes again, found in breech of rules 2.1 and 2.3) and a Sanctions decision (fine) against SportXXX ('sexual activities shown were broadcast over a prolonged period and were accompanied by the following voiceover, which was transmitted intermittently: “Our model on-screen is about to have a real live orgasm…..you can talk to her while ‘tommy tanking’ [i.e. rhyming slang for wanking] or just listen in on her call…you really don’t want to miss this, we are live and it is real.”'). No mention that the voiceover that referred to the 'live and real' show was itself pre-recorded and the most deadly dull passion-killer going.

Of course if Ofcom recognises euphemisms for what they really mean, they ought to be consistent and punish any channel showing Father Ted before 10pm ("feck") as well as some episodes of Fawlty Towers (remember the "Watery Twats" name plate?), and don't get me started on Catherine Tate's gran, in a show deliberately and cynically targetted at kids by - of all people - the BBC.

Thanks for replies people, can i just point out that my post has also been censored?!

I appreciate that some people find the 'C' word offensive, but this is the internet for gawds sake. Have Ofcom censored my post, or have one of the mods become shy of the 'C' word and replaced with 'Muffin' on my post? This is supposed to be an internet forum, where freedom of speech should reign, right?

(04-03-2010 11:42 )laos_2003_uk Wrote:  Thanks for replies people, can i just point out that my post has also been censored?!

I appreciate that some people find the 'C' word offensive, but this is the internet for gawds sake. Have Ofcom censored my post, or have one of the mods become shy of the 'C' word and replaced with 'Muffin' on my post? This is supposed to be an internet forum, where freedom of speech should reign, right?

It will be the forum's automatic word filter cutting in.
Its been like this for over a year.
The word filter is set by admin, not the mods.
It also filters out web links which are not allowed to be posted on the forum for various reasons.

I don't know. Maybe it's because they are a lot of ladies present!

Thanks for the explanation TW.

Whizzer do you really think the ladies on this site have any aversion to any naughty words? Considering their jobs?