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New 100m World Record

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...but its not possible that Bolt didnt cheat??? Rolleyes
25-08-2009 14:51
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I dont remember saying it is not possible he did not cheat but When Carl lewis said ben Johnsone was on drugs after the world champs in 1987 every one thought it was sour grapes. It is possible that Bolt has not taken drugs but I believe highly unlikely. Whilst we are at why dont we discuss what came first the chicken or the egg? I personally would give up after making my point a lot of you will keep going to you have won the war and I bow down to your superior judgement. Last time I checked it was a democracy where as people were allowed to have different view points to your self and you are allowed to agree to disagree. Is that still the case? with this current government and judging by peoples reaction on this thread I am thinking maybe not.Rolleyes
25-08-2009 15:27
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Or that you seem to think there is an uber drug that can make people the best at anything ever but is completely undetectable, I am sorry but that drug does not exist, if it completely undetectable then it is not going to be a performance enhancing drug, I could only think of a saline placebo or something very similiar working in the way you described. I do not know what your problem is with athletics but it is just really sour grapes.

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25-08-2009 20:37
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1) you still have to train for drugs to benefit you. Drugs do not make you into a super athlete it allows you to do the work and training to become a super athlete.
2) This is a point which you dont seem to be able to understand Dwain Chambers took a designer drug which he claims other athletes took yet he got found out they did not.
3) There is no sour grapes just someone who followed athletics closely and knows the cheating that takes place which has happend since the 50s.for example east european women in the 70s and eightys use to drink urine to make it harder to detect drugs that battle between the detectors and the cheats is now more sophisticated but still goes on.
I hope Bolt is innocent I have accepted and understood your views why cant you accept mine? You are going to stand by your views I will stand by mine. This is my point Just because Bolt has not tested positive it does not mean that he is not taking something. I dont like athletics beacause of the history(very recent in a lot of cases) of cheating and nothing will change my mind. Christe and Carl lewis were out spoken against drug usage and guess what both been found out to be drug cheats. They were at the time held up to be a credit to their sport and have proven to be hypercrites.
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25-08-2009 21:13
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1. But you also have to get tested for it to be found, he gets tested a lot and always passes.
2. Sour grapes on his part then maybe because everybody else was tested and passed, so either they weren't doing them or were very lucky.
3. No you are not accepting my views you are basically saying he COULD be innocent, but he isn't. I am going to say he COULD be on drugs (like a 0.0001% probability because of the frequency of his tests) but he obviously isn't. Because of the frequency of the tests. It has been shown even on the drugs you get caught, as Chambers has shown, so IF he was on the drugs he would of been caught by now.

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25-08-2009 21:25
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you have totally misunderstood my point about chambers I have given up trying to explain to you if you dont understand my point you never will. Two guys can have the same alcohlic beverage and same amount one can come out negative another positive when tested on the breatherliser.
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25-08-2009 21:47
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It is not affecting the person who tested negative on the breathylyser then is it?

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25-08-2009 21:53
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People forget the reason why Chambers was caught was because a whistleblower revealed the new designer steroid at the time. Marion Jones was also on this drug and she passed her tests at the 2000 Olympics, and she probably would be recognised as clean today if it wasn't for someone opening their mouths.

Usain Bolt may be clean and he's innocent till proven guilty, but what he's doing right now does make you wonder because he's destroying times run by the likes of Carl Lewis,Linford Christie,Ben Johnson etc... and they were all drug cheats and were great sprinters. Usain Bolt's better then them all, partly because of his unique ability to have quick long legs, but who's to say he isn't on something illegal?

New and better drugs do get made, as does better masking agents. The drug makers will always be one step ahead of the testers, so the fact that Usian Bolt's clean right now does not mean that much, I mean the East German and Soviet athletes were clean in the 70's and 80's don't forget.
26-08-2009 18:12
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Quote:It is not affecting the person who tested negative on the breathylyser then is it?


You're right...
Usain Bolt is truly amazing....
04-06-2010 08:43
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Watch the documentary, it's already been shown, by Michael Johnson about Usain Bolt. (Tomorrow BBC1 13.15). At MJ's Sports Science Centre in Dallas they have analysed Bolt's 100 metres and reckon that he could be even faster.

His start, apparently, is shocking as all the energy is going sideways and not in a straight line. Their conclusion was that if Bolt gets even a decent start then it is all over as his turnover combined with such a huge stride is unbeatable.

Bolt is a freak just like Johnson whose running style was completely against the norm. Men, of Usain's height, are not meant to be able to have the fast leg cadence. Obviously, this is not true.
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