Football Banter

(22-11-2011 23:00 )gazfc Wrote:  Come on are some of you serious? At what point during that game was he been affectionate towards evra? Its Quite obvious that he was using that term to wind evra up, Those two where not friends on that pitch and the fact some of you are willing to defend him on some kind of culture mix up is a massive cop out.

Nobody's saying Suarez was being affectionate towards Evra. He used a normal phrase used in South America, that isn't offensive.

Evra's heard the first 4 letters of the word used "Negrito" and presumed Suarez has abused him.

It's 100% a culture mix up in my book and the charge should be thrown out.

(23-11-2011 11:38 )groundnpound Wrote:  

(22-11-2011 23:00 )gazfc Wrote:  Come on are some of you serious? At what point during that game was he been affectionate towards evra? Its Quite obvious that he was using that term to wind evra up, Those two where not friends on that pitch and the fact some of you are willing to defend him on some kind of culture mix up is a massive cop out.

Nobody's saying Suarez was being affectionate towards Evra. He used a normal phrase used in South America, that isn't offensive.

Evra's heard the first 4 letters of the word used "Negrito" and presumed Suarez has abused him.

It's 100% a culture mix up in my book and the charge should be thrown out.

How long has he been at pool for? Does he call his own black team mates that?

He's been here since January. I wouldn't know the answer to your other question mate? I know what Suarez said to Evra though, and know it isn't offensive in his culture. So for me, he shouldn't be punished for it.

(22-11-2011 12:42 )gazfc Wrote:  Anyone noticed how little media coverage/condemnation Blackburns blatant cheating is getting, is this purely down to it been Blackburn who dont sell coloum inches or are people's views on cheating changing due to the frequency it's now happening in the modern game?

True if it happened in the Chelsea-Pool match we wouldn't be hearing the end of it, but it wasn't really "blatant cheating" though was it? It was a well worked set piece, but Yakubu fucked up by being too subtle with it. And Pedersen and the ref assumed he had made contact with it

Let's face it it is down to the officials for not spotting it sooner, so that'll be another referee who will find himself not taking charge of a Premiership game this season. But yes i am surprised how little coverage it was given by the media, but at the same time, i can imagine if it had happened in the Chelsea - Liverpool game it would have got more coverage or maybe in an United game, yet Giggs did the same thing I recall and got away with it.
It is high time that FA read the riot act to officials. there have been far too many mistakes made this season. Anyone agree?

(23-11-2011 18:59 )babelover48 Wrote:  Let's face it it is down to the officials for not spotting it sooner, so that'll be another referee who will find himself not taking charge of a Premiership game this season. But yes i am surprised how little coverage it was given by the media, but at the same time, i can imagine if it had happened in the Chelsea - Liverpool game it would have got more coverage or maybe in an United game, yet Giggs did the same thing I recall and got away with it.
It is high time that FA read the riot act to officials. there have been far too many mistakes made this season. Anyone agree?

video replays for each time the ball is put into the net like they do in nfl when a touchdown is scored to check for any infringements. it also helps if the officals after each game came out and explain the major decisions.

jt's pr people are working overtime he is wearing an armband saying unite against racism, its like if the pope backed a nspcc campaign.

(22-11-2011 23:00 )gazfc Wrote:  Come on are some of you serious? At what point during that game was he been affectionate towards evra? Its Quite obvious that he was using that term to wind evra up, Those two where not friends on that pitch and the fact some of you are willing to defend him on some kind of culture mix up is a massive cop out.

Next you'll be saying that spain should be let off with the monkey chants cause they dont know its a racial slur towards black players or let that player the other week for spitting at the wolves player just cause he didn't know it was disrespectful

Also your point about the white American and it been racist, correct me if I'm wrong but Suarez isn't black, even though it's a different word used both phrases said by a white man to a black man must be considered racist

Your basing this on things like Wikipedia saying it's an affectionate term, the word 'Negrito' in South America as I understand it is used the same as some single words are in quite a few languages, it translates to a multi word frase. Word: Negrito, Frase: Little black fella or something along these lines.

I'm pretty sure there's a lot of white men/women who have called someone they didn't know (Even if they know their name) "That black guy" , "The black fella" , "The Asian bloke"

The monkey thing, your just being silly.
You didn't say black American calling someone 'nigga' you just said American & I don't think white Americans use this word in the same way street level black men do..... Isn't calling someone black also racist yet it's used by many people everyday, i.e Barack Obama is he first black American President.

groundnpound sums it up well.

(23-11-2011 11:38 )groundnpound Wrote:  Nobody's saying Suarez was being affectionate towards Evra. He used a normal phrase used in South America, that isn't offensive.

Evra's heard the first 4 letters of the word used "Negrito" and presumed Suarez has abused him.

It's 100% a culture mix up in my book and the charge should be thrown out.

This is a pretty fair solution.

(22-11-2011 20:48 )mitchell Wrote:  If the FA have any sense given it was also used in an interview by Hernandez back in Mexico they'd throw the charge out but state to all players & staff from south & central America that eventhough it's a social term on their continent, here in Europe it could be viewed as a racist term so should refrain from using it in future.

I don't think Blackburn cheated, It was just a mistake made worse by the linesman in that end of the pitch being on the opposite side. I think the FA need to bring a fair play rule in that says you can't take this kind of corner or the stop start penalty that players always do as it's not fair on the keeper who can no longer come off his line.

if you'd of said two months ago that arsenal would be the first premiership club to qualify for the next round of the champions league, winning their group with a game in hand, you'd of been laughed out of the building! thank fuck we'll miss barca in the next round!

(23-11-2011 21:56 )terence Wrote:  if you'd of said two months ago that arsenal would be the first premiership club to qualify for the next round of the champions league, winning their group with a game in hand, you'd of been laughed out of the building! thank fuck we'll miss barca in the next round!

I think any club would be happy to miss Barca in the next round!!

I wondered what I was watching last night.

Two guys in masks and a mohican.
Are all the teams going to start playing in fancy dress