(25-11-2011 12:28 )kooky3076 Wrote: ah! so the assumption I make that you're having a neanderthol out look is unjust, not fair?
but you're quite happy to make the assumption that anyone that finds a ladyboy attractive is gay or bisexual!
No, not 'unjust' or 'not fair', just incorrect. As for labeling those who find Balloon and other transgenders attractive, gay or bisexual, my point has always been that these people can't possibly be straight as far as I'm concerned. There's a subtle difference between being gay/bisexual and not straight.
(25-11-2011 15:52 )Addison Wrote: What's funny about this is that when Balloon first appeared and was being passed off as one of the girls, I don't remember any concerted outrage erupting in here; just a few unsure murmurings that started up a few appearances in. The move from a cautious 'is-s/he-or-isn't-s/he?' to a 'you-can-call-it-from-a-hundred-yards-away-with-one-eye-closed' didn't happen half as quickly as it would've done if Balloon was truly as obviously masculine-looking as Stan claims. There were no quips about Desperate Dan back then. Deep down Stan, you know you're still exaggerating, despite the fact that the cartoon comparisons have been dropped.
Addison, if you go way back to the day these transgenders were introduced, I think you'll find it was me who was the first to call it, and virtually immediately. You'll also see that I was in very little doubt either. I was ridiculed at the time, but I knew what I was seeing.
As for the other part of your argument, I admit it was wrong to say it's the male parts you're attracted to, but you and others can't deny you choose to ignore the fact that these girls have male genitalia. It doesn't matter how many times you and others tell me the TG are as attractive and feminine (sometimes more so) as those who were born women, you cannot convince me they don't look like anything other than men masquerading as women. If they were so beautiful and feminine, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference - which as I stress in my earlier point, I was doing even before they started announcing it on the show.
If you and others choose to ignore that these women have prosthetic breasts, not to mention a penis and testicles between their legs - then fair enough, but please stop trying to convince me they're as beautiful as real women.