Grid Girls banned. Discussion.

Yep

Bernie Ecclestone isn't happy about this change

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/ecc...spartanntp

also can add Sky Sports & The PDC to the list of hypocrites. its week 1 of the premier league darts this evening and whilst there at no walk on girls. there are cheerleaders dancing on the stage wearing crop tops & hotpants!!!!!!!! so how is walk on girls in dresses not ok yet girls dancing on stage in crop tops & hotpants ok?

There is a worrying convergence between many of the agendas and aims of the PC left and radical Islam. By 2040 all women will be in burkas at this rate.

There is a new-Puritanism, a desire to deny the fact that men and women enjoy, let alone should be allowed to enjoy, looking at one another and finding one another attractive. It is forbidden; it is haram.

If a guy makes a clumsy attempt to flirt with a co worker or ask her out, he will nowadays be lucky to keep his job and may even be reported to the police. Soon all sexual relationships will be initially sourced via the Web on dating sites as "real world" approaches are fast becoming simply too risk laden for males to contemplate. Not surprising that nightclubs and bars are dying on their feet and closing down at an accelerating rate. Millennials don't drink and don't get partners in drinking venues. It is all arranged on the internet. Boys and girls and men and women must not mix together in public, it is forbidden; it is haram.

These edicts and fatwas don't seem to apply to LGBT people though, surprise surprise...they are allowed to flaunt their sexuality in public as outrageously as they wish, as anyone who has witnessed or seen footage of a "Pride" march can readily attest.

(01-02-2018 17:35 )Rammyrascal Wrote:  I'm strongly against this decision by F1 & Darts to drop their female promo models. it is indeed politically correct BS and anti feminist.

the models are doing this of their own free will, they are not being exploited, forced or degraded at all. also for me feminism & women's rights is women being allowed to do whatever they want with no barriers or restrictions. yet here we are with women (so called feminists) telling other women they cant be a grid girl

love the hyprocrisy from the woman against grid girls on the good morning britain interview. kicking off about women being objectified as grid girls, yet when it was pointed out to her F1 has male grid boys she says "I'm up for that"

then there was hypocrisy from Melinda Messenger who was on the wright stuff today via phone supporting the decision to drop grid girls yet what did she do for several years....SHE WAS A GRID GIRL FOR JORDAN RACING!!!!!!!

then Beverley Turner was a hyprocrite yesterday on itv evening news supporting the decision yet she had worked as a presenter on ITV F1!!! and had been a model

finally in my rant there was a debate on loose women today about this and two of them were against grid girls even though 2 of the loose women have been grid girls!!!!

Rant Over

Good point,Melinda Messenger as well as Amanda Lamb both mentioned on the Wright Stuff this morning that they both were former Grid Girls who really enjoyed the job at the time & earned good money from it but don't find suitable today.It all smacks of 'I'm all-right Jack (I made my money & fame) fuck the rest of you' attitude & every former model who have been involved in that line of work I've seen interviewed never had a bad word to say about it.

I just believe that there is an ever-increasing group of people (the ultra pc-type that become offended on behalf of someone who might be offended) who frown upon the whole 'Glamour Model Profession' & talk it down as they don't see it as a 'proper job' & probably aspire all females to become either mp's,scientists,brain surgeons etc.
In my early 20's (which was over a decade or so ago) I used to date a girl who worked in the glamour industry shooting lingerie & sportswear shoots & a bulk of the money she earned was funding her way through college & university (where she wanted to study law) like many other girls in the industry who have similar goals & aspirations .There have been quite a few academic & university educated women who opted to work in the Glamour Industry like Melinda Messenger,Lucy Pinder etc.

I think that the brood who want to ban anything where a member of the female sex exposes a little bit of flesh would be far better venting their disapproval at producers of those 'dog shit' reality shows where the concept is plying attractive looking men & women in secluded areas expecting them to have sex,this is far more demeaning than a glamour model or a grid girl holding up a placard.

With PDC banning walk in models & now the ban on grid girls what an earth follows next? banning ring girls at boxing matches,banning cheerleaders,banning ball-boys & girls at tennis matches,banning life-guards at swimming pools or the beach from wearing swimwear,banning beauty pagents & Miss World etc at this point I wan't the world to stop so I can just get off ffs.

I'm no female & so have no inkling of what the true meaning of 'Feminism' but I sure would like think it would support women in any profession or career of their choosing without being shouted down & belittled by the sisterhood.

As Rake rightly iterates in his comment at the current speed of travel of this agenda from the PC Brigade we may be getting to the point of the Lexicon we cannot retreat back from in a place where we are not just told what to say but what to think as well.
A place where asking out a man or woman & using a few misplaced words could possibly end up with a 'sexual harassment' charge.And a place where a person like me has 'old fashioned values' like holding doors open for women,giving up my seat on the train etc,paying the bill on a date etc would probably be perceived as an 'out-of-touch dinosaur'.

Apologies for my long-winded rant (phew).

Rammy was rightly pointing out about the hypocrisy of the Loose Women old crows debating about the Grid Girls on tv but I remember several years ago they were debating about whether The Sun newspaper should stop featuring Page 3 girls (before they went ahead & stopped it) where all the panel agreed it should be stopped.
Fast forward 3 days later & the very same show brought on topless male waiter's (all were pretty-boys showing off their toned physique) & they still continue with it every now & then.Look up hypocrisy in the dictionary & it does give reference to those Loose Women crabs.

I just hope that MotoGP doesn't follow suit, and ban the girls from their grids as well.

All of the girls who have now been made redundant because of this, should claim unfair dismissle and say that not being allowed to do the job is a breach of their human rights.

The doo-gooders and feminists should all be sectioned under the mental health act, and quietly given a lethal injection as they are nothing but a bunch of snowflakes who are not wanted. Nor do they serve any real purpose either.

They add ZERO. Just garnish. BUT.........the whole PC brigade fucking them over is something worth objecting to.

(02-02-2018 00:57 )Jack the Nipper Wrote:  Rammy was rightly pointing out about the hypocrisy of the Loose Women old crows debating about the Grid Girls on tv but I remember several years ago they were debating about whether The Sun newspaper should stop featuring Page 3 girls (before they went ahead & stopped it) where all the panel agreed it should be stopped.
Fast forward 3 days later & the very same show brought on topless male waiter's (all were pretty-boys showing off their toned physique) & they still continue with it every now & then.Look up hypocrisy in the dictionary & it does give reference to those Loose Women crabs.

as well as the hypocrisy that 2 of Loose Women being against grid girls even though 2 of them have been grid girls in the past (Kelly Brook & Katie Price), there was even more hypocrisy as all the loose women minutes later were basically ogling & lusting over guest Jake Quickenden

Loose women always go "don't treat women as just sex objects" yet they regularly treat men just as sex objects!!!

That these girls have lost their jobs, without having any input is disgusting. Its time these feminists were put back in their cupboard, and it might be a good idea to nail the fucking thing shut. This PC crap is getting way out of hand, what happened to freedom of choice??

I'm deffo in the minority here and going to get flamed but I'm gonna have a rant about the majority of the rants in this thread.

I'm a former project manager (wasn't very good at it hence the former) and have been involved in many a meeting about how to increase our customer base. Every meeting ended with the conclusion that we needed more women and younger people so we brought up ideas that would help us with this.

IMO The same is happening here especially with Formula One.

Most sports have two problems. Their viewership is down and the average age of the viewer is going up. For example the average age for WWE wrestling in the USA is 54 For Nascar and golf it's in the 60s. Huge problem. Formula one in the last couple of years, while having TV viewership go down, is bucking the trend and seeing the average age fall from mid 40s to late 30s mainly due to a new customer base in the more conservative regions of Asia and the middle east. It is also seeing more females watching then ever before again mainly in this region. The younger viewers are also watching more on mobile devices then ever before. I would guess that getting rid of grid girls is a first step out of many to modernise the sport I.E cater to the younger generations tastes. With my managers hat on this makes sense and ill hazard a guess that the next steps will involve an investment or even rule change to help female drivers compete in F1 similar to the decision in French horse racing which helped women jockeys. That will add to the number of woman watching. Another will be shortening of the race or the whole build up like the grid walk as it seems the younger generation prefers to see highlights particularly on social media platforms then the whole event, as witnessed in the NFL which is why IMO Vince McMahon is bringing back the XFL and shortening the event.

Younger people watching means more ad revenue and greater profits.

And if it doesn't go to plan Liberty Media can always say they were forced into it by the extreme left radical Islam loving feminists off Loose Women proving the Daily Mail right all along.

If we just stop watching they will soon reverse their decision. Its time these feminists were kicked into touch