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Viewer Expectations : Audience Survey - IanG - 11-02-2010 20:35
Dear babeshows forum members and babe/adult channel viewers,
In recent complaints bulletins regarding 'boundary-pushing' babe channels (actually quite tame compared to what we used to watch on these channels before 2005/6) Ofcom made the following sweeping statement:
Quote:"The material shown was so strongly sexual that it would have exceeded the likely expectation of the vast majority of the audience"
I think we'd all like to know if this claim is true or not. Sure, Ofcom have asked small groups of people (perhaps 20 or so if memory serves me well) from certain 'ethnic minorities' and non-specific adult channel viewing members of the public what they feel about 'mature' content on TV but, to my knowledge, Ofcom have never polled or surveyed those members of society that physically make up the typical audience of these particular channels - i.e. broad-minded, sexually-liberated people like ourselves.
Logic tells me that if the vast majority of viewers were offended by what they saw then they'd switch off or over, they'd perhaps feel compelled to complain to Ofcom in great swathes. In reality Ofcom get maybe one or two complaints about these shows on a very intermittent basis. And, as these channels rely upon people subscribing or calling-in, alienating the viewers is not really in their finanical interests and they would surely know if great swathes of people were turning off when the shows got too risque. In all, I do not believe Ofcom's claims. In fact, I don't see how Ofcom can believe their own claims - do you?
So, let's put an end to all the hype and speculation. It's a simple question: does the content on channels in Ofcom's so-called "adult section of the EPG" reach, meet, or exceed your expectations?
This poll will hopefully reveal the veracity of Ofcom's assertions that:
a) the material exceeds the expectations of the audience and
b) that this applies to the vast majority of the audience
One, other or both of these assertions maybe wrong - and that could have serious repercussions for Ofcom's future decisions, indeed, they may have to alter their Code to meet audience expectations as the Comms Act 2003 demands.
The more responses we get the better - in order to get an accurate and representative picture of the situation. The 26000 members here most surely represent a fair cross-section of the British Public and, arguably, fully represent the typical 'adult TV' audience.
NOW PLEASE VOTE! This research is crucial to the future of these channels and your participation is essential.
Many thanks for your time and co-operation
IanG.
RE: Viewer Expectations : Audience Survey - StanTheMan - 11-02-2010 20:41
I feel very positive about this. Thank you so much for taking the time to put it together.
Just one question, Ian. To what incident does Ofcom's quote about expection relate to exactly?
RE: Viewer Expectations : Audience Survey - IanG - 11-02-2010 21:01
Stan, sorry, please vote (I need those % figures!!!) and then, if you like, tell us all EXACTLY what you EXPECT to see on the channels.
For instance: I EXPECT to see totally naked babes talking dirty, flashing gash and playing with themseleves all night long - as I used to see on Babestar. I EXPECT to see babes doing full stipsteases throughout the night - as I used to watch on Sexstation. I EXPECT to see full-on close-up Flash The Gash. I EXPECT to see XXX encrypted shows on PPV channels - as used to be on Live/Sport XXX. On non-babe channels (like TAC or TVX) I EXPECT to see uncensored R18 material (as TAC and PB tried for a few weeks circa 2004).
What I do NOT expect to see are topless glamour/porn models wearing two pair of granny pants talking about 'clocks' and 'punanis'. I do NOT expect to see pixilation of the genitals anywhere outside Japan. And I sure as fuck do NOT expect to sign up to a 12 month 'adult' channel subscription to watch material no more explicit than Confessions of a Window Cleaner.
RE: Viewer Expectations : Audience Survey - mikedafc - 11-02-2010 22:23
Only when Amanda or Caty are on does it exceed my expectations nowadays on Night Time shows.
Daytime shows are now rank with the exceptation of The Chat.
RE: Viewer Expectations : Audience Survey - StanTheMan - 11-02-2010 22:43
(11-02-2010 22:23 )mikedafc Wrote: Only when Amanda or Caty are on does it exceed my expectations nowadays on Night Time shows.
Really? I'm not trying to sway anyone's opinion here (that would do the research no good at all) but can you explain why your expectations are exceeded when Amanda or Caty are on. Bare in mind I don't think Ian is asking us to consider the rare ocassions of explicitness here - such as Lollygate, etc. I'm surprised that you feel your expectations are exceeded, considering you're watching a show intended for adults, that goes out well passed the watershed and is situated in the 'adult' section of the EPG.
RE: Viewer Expectations : Audience Survey - seth - 11-02-2010 22:49
(11-02-2010 21:01 )IanG Wrote: And I sure as fuck do NOT expect to sign up to a 12 month 'adult' channel subscription to watch material no more explicit than Confessions of a Window Cleaner.
This for me is the biggest joke of the lot. The porn channels in this country should really be considered softporn.
And they want you to pay 5.99 a month or whatever for this junk.
RE: Viewer Expectations : Audience Survey - mikedafc - 11-02-2010 22:56
They are the only two that I would pay to watch, from the way they act it is obvious that they enjoy what they do for a living, a lot of the girls on the channels seem to be going through the motions to pick up their pay cheques.
(11-02-2010 22:43 )StanTheMan Wrote:(11-02-2010 22:23 )mikedafc Wrote: Only when Amanda or Caty are on does it exceed my expectations nowadays on Night Time shows.
Really? I'm not trying to sway anyone's opinion here (that would do the research no good at all) but can you explain why your expectations are exceeded when Amanda or Caty are on. Bare in mind I don't think Ian is asking us to consider the rare ocassions of explicitness here - such as Lollygate, etc. I'm surprised that you feel your expectations are exceeded, considering you're watching a show intended for adults, that goes out well passed the watershed and is situated in the 'adult' section of the EPG.
RE: Viewer Expectations : Audience Survey - damncensorship - 11-02-2010 22:56
(11-02-2010 22:43 )StanTheMan Wrote:(11-02-2010 22:23 )mikedafc Wrote: Only when Amanda or Caty are on does it exceed my expectations nowadays on Night Time shows.
Really? I'm not trying to sway anyone's opinion here (that would do the research no good at all) but can you explain why your expectations are exceeded when Amanda or Caty are on. Bare in mind I don't think Ian is asking us to consider the rare ocassions of explicitness here - such as Lollygate, etc. I'm surprised that you feel your expectations are exceeded, considering you're watching a show intended for adults, that goes out well passed the watershed and is situated in the 'adult' section of the EPG.
Yeh and have demos pre-nightshow on how to lock the channels.
I'd also like to comment on the fact that whilst I was a TVX subscriber last year, 99% of the scenes were censored, either by those black lines at the top and bottom of the screen, or were hugely edited by cutting out shots when the camera would show something 'explicit'.
What I found weird however, was in the other 1% of scenes, which were mainly of an amateur variety, there would be several clear shots of dildo insertions, oral sex, female masturbation, penetration, etc. Where is the consistency?
I can understand if porn channels than only require a pin to watch had some rules, but you can only watch TVX after registering with a credit card. They even banned those shows from TVX in 2008 where the girls were completely nude, but didn't touch themselves down there.
But it's ok the children are protected, oh except for the ones who read computer games mags and see sex telephone line numbers in the back that read, 'I make you horny long time'
RE: Viewer Expectations : Audience Survey - vostok 1 - 11-02-2010 23:30
Great job on setting this up IanG.
Is there any possibility that Admin or a mod could make this thread a sticky?
The impact of this type of poll relies on the amount of people who vote.
Lets hope that the majority of registered members will take a few seconds to cast their vote and let their opinion be known.
RE: Viewer Expectations : Audience Survey - StanTheMan - 12-02-2010 00:28
(11-02-2010 23:30 )vostok 1 Wrote: Is there any possibility that Admin or a mod could make this thread a sticky?
Seconded.