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RE: OnlyFans - Rule Changes - marlowe - 21-08-2021 16:45
(21-08-2021 16:26 )Rake Wrote: Errr amounts to the same thing if you can’t buy petrol…
You can buy petrol - and Mastercard have never suggested otherwise.
RE: OnlyFans - Rule Changes - The Silent Majority - 21-08-2021 16:50
(21-08-2021 16:24 )Rake Wrote:(21-08-2021 15:47 )The Silent Majority Wrote:(21-08-2021 14:50 )Rake Wrote: The whole problem with attacking it via the payment processing companies is that
the sensitivity and specificity ratios of this action are likely to be hopelessly out of kilter and will destroy the livelihoods of millions of perfectly legal creators and a pleasure for millions of punters.
You're delusional if you think the payment processors are on some kind of moral crusade here. They're only concern is making money and avoiding fines.
This will fall in the latter category.
I didn’t mention moral crusades. Projection is a powerful thing, it’s you thats been adopting a sanctimonious moral high ground position, even to the extent of citing a family case of abuse and welcoming the Mastercard policy because even 1 in 65 million is too many…
Where have I said I welcome it? Now who's projecting.
If OF had got their house in order it's likely Mastercard wouldn't have had to make changes.
And if my personal experience has offended you in any way, I don't give a fuck.
RE: OnlyFans - Rule Changes - Tumble_Drier - 21-08-2021 17:06
If you court "celebs" you invite increased scrutiny. Competent management would have seen this coming.
MFC banned swathes of Asian models due to under age girls using fake i.d to register so it's not like Radvinsky isn't aware of the problem. The fact is that he just doesn't give a fuck unless his hand is forced and it has been.
Meanwhile my Snapchat is packed with MFC Models complaining that they'll have to delete content or change platforms. They'll be back to posting holiday snaps or pictures of their latest expensive purchase soon enough.
RE: OnlyFans - Rule Changes - Tumble_Drier - 21-08-2021 17:15
The Vultures are circling.
Fancentro are offering 100% payouts to new creators until October 1st and 80% thereafter
RE: OnlyFans - Rule Changes - eskimo quinn - 21-08-2021 17:18
Surely the real villain in this story is PornHub, because it was their failings that kicked all this off. It was their lack of proper moderation that got the payment processors under pressure to do something about their dodgy content in the first place.
RE: OnlyFans - Rule Changes - Rake - 21-08-2021 17:20
(21-08-2021 16:50 )The Silent Majority Wrote: And if my personal experience has offended you in any way, I don't give a fuck.
LMAO. I don't give 2 hoots about you, or your experiences.
RE: OnlyFans - Rule Changes - Glenn Miller - 21-08-2021 17:41
(21-08-2021 17:06 )Tumble_Drier Wrote: The fact is that he just doesn't give a fuck unless his hand is forced and it has been.
That isn't true, they do give a fuck, especially since they started chasing the celeb market. They have tried to tighten up their procedures in recent times and avoid any negative publicity. Obviously what they've done hasn't been enough and minors have still managed to register, but even their worst enemies haven't managed to find many cases out of all their millions of users.
I think the likes of Mastercard appreciate that efforts have been made by OnlyFans, otherwise they would have been cut off completely like PornHub. If they were perceived to be reckless it would be the end. The fact that they are simply given new terms requiring stronger moderation of content shows that Mastercard see what they have done so far but feel that more is needed.
RE: OnlyFans - Rule Changes - lovebabes56 - 21-08-2021 18:32
Just thoughht I'd sharer this from my DM on Twitter from them : -
"Content containing nudity will continue to be allowed as long as it is consistent with the policy. Existing content that does not meet the standards of the new policy will need to be removed before December 1, 2021 or any other date which we communicate to Users. Our intention is for the policy to be implemented in accordance with the dates mentioned in the Acceptable Use Policy, but we may need to change one or more of the dates as circumstances may require. Here is a link to the new Acceptable Use Policy –https://onlyfans.com/aup. We look forward to continuing to provide an innovative platform for our diverse creator community. If we may be of any further assistance, please feel free to contact us at anytime."
What do you guys make of it????
RE: OnlyFans - Rule Changes - ShandyHand - 21-08-2021 18:34
(21-08-2021 16:38 )tony confederate Wrote:(21-08-2021 15:47 )The Silent Majority Wrote: You're delusional if you think the payment processors are on some kind of moral crusade here.
Indeed. If they were on a moral crusade they would surely stop acting as a payment partner for porn sites, rather than continuing to be a major payment partner for porn sites whilst insisting on proper moderation of content.
Many adult sites are not affected by the rule changes at all and Mastercard will continue to provide them with payment services without any issues. In other words Mastercard continues to be part and parcel of the porn industry.
We arn't just talking tweaks here. Mastercard have created a situation in which OF felt compelled to REMOVE whole swathes of legal material. Besides the former shouldn't be in a position to moderate anything. They should have no such authority. The only reason they do is because of their dominance in the marketplace.
I agree it's more likely Mastercard primary motivation is pre-emptive damage control more than moral crusade. As as been hinted in previous posts they fear legislative blowback if they fail to act against parties that become newsworthy for the wrong reasons. The religious nuts simply learnt to use the right leverage to bring this about. (The BBC article was presumably accidental version of the same thing.) Thing is anyone that can wield the right type of publicity now has a tool to work against the Adult industry. And that's the thing which censorship - there's always someone who wants more once you start.
RE: OnlyFans - Rule Changes - marlowe - 21-08-2021 19:34
(21-08-2021 18:34 )ShandyHand Wrote: Besides the former shouldn't be in a position to moderate anything.
Yes they should. It's their business. They should be able to impose any terms or conditions they think fit.