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RE: Dr Who - lazydayz - 12-11-2014 12:58
(12-11-2014 08:27 )Doddle Wrote: It would be like living in Leicester and going "oh well, Nottingham liked it! Derby loved it!
Exactly, good point what would Leicester be seeing the rest don't?
Everybody is entitle to like are dislike whatever they want, but the reason given on here tend to clash with the majority of the view. No idea why people are getting so uptight and sulky over my pointing that out.
RE: Dr Who - Billy_Nomates - 12-11-2014 16:51
Almost the entire series has been taken over by the love story between Oswald and Pink. It's done, surely, for the benefit of the large teenage female audience? Also, I did notice that there were a huge number of female characters - again for the benefit of the teenage females tuning in.
RE: Dr Who - bytor - 12-11-2014 18:12
(12-11-2014 12:58 )lazydayz Wrote:(12-11-2014 08:27 )Doddle Wrote: It would be like living in Leicester and going "oh well, Nottingham liked it! Derby loved it!
Exactly, good point what would Leicester be seeing the rest don't?
Everybody is entitle to like are dislike whatever they want, but the reason given on here tend to clash with the majority of the view. No idea why people are getting so uptight and sulky over my pointing that out.
No one is sulking. Because many of us on this forum may have differing views from those you claim form the 'majority' doesn't make us wrong (Presumably you have the confirmed evidence to substantiate this claim of a majority view?) . So what if we clash with the professional critics... such a critic is nothing other than someone paid money to give their opinion. That doesn't make it necessarily correct. If many get enjoyment from whatever series, then they are welcome to rejoice to the world but there is nothing wrong or negative if someone wishes to voice things they dislike either.
RE: Dr Who - lazydayz - 12-11-2014 18:21
(12-11-2014 18:12 )bytor Wrote:(12-11-2014 12:58 )lazydayz Wrote: Everybody is entitle to like are dislike whatever they want, but the reason given on here tend to clash with the majority of the view. No idea why people are getting so uptight and sulky over my pointing that out.
No one is sulking. Because many of us on this forum may have differing views from those you claim form the 'majority' doesn't make us wrong
Did you even read the post of mine you quoted? I have highlighted it for you for ease.
When some one snaps at me 'WTF is wrong with you', I take that as sulking and intolerant of my views.
RE: Dr Who - Regenerated - 12-11-2014 18:46
If I could just add a few more comments to this -
If you think back across the majority of the series, I actually think that the number of times the Doctor has actually saved the day and by this I mean conclusively saved it, not talking about half baked conclusions where either Clara has taken over, some random twist of fate has intervened to make the decision for him, or a pitiful enemy has had a change of heart, turned soft and sacrificed themselves to save it, can be counted on one hand. The only time I truly felt the Doctor grew some balls and defeated the enemy was in Flatline.
In Listen, although it was the best episode of the series in my opinion, there wasn't really an out and out enemy to stop - that story was good and effective simply because it was spooky and intriguing. In the two part finale he was upstaged by Missy and left looking really lost. That was such an anticlimactic ending to in my opinion what was already a below-average series of Doctor Who. In the first episode - Deep Breath - he did next to nothing because he was recovering from the new regeneration, like his predecessors did. Kill The Moon was rank bad, I mean one of the worst episodes and titles ever made, Into the Dalek was bad because the most dangerous enemy the Doctor has ever faced was turned into a sadcase. I'm sorry but changing Daleks and Cybermen from brutal killing machines into sad, pitiful, tame wastes of space was criminal from Moffat. I have to admit that such actions from him left me feeling with a can't be bothered attitude to watch Mummy On The Orient Express and Robot of Sherwood. Robot of Fucking Sherwood FFS?!! See what I mean - crap, childish titles aimed at a younger audience don't generate excitement in adults.
I've seen plenty of comments from non - professional critics (being a critic doesn't mean you have to be a professional one lazydayz, fans are themselves critics and their opinions still count as much as some prat writing for the Telegraph) expressing how disappointed they were with the writing (something else we've frequently stated in here) so it's not just people on this forum disappointed with it.
Take a look at some of these comments on http://www.tv.com. It has divided opinions there's no question of that, and although there are some that like some aspects of it, there's also a strong sense of frustration and disappointment that it could have been more, and I don't get the feeling that it was overwhelmingly 'exceptional'. If it was exceptional I'm sure at least a few of us would have shared your views in here.
http://www.tv.com/shows/doctor-who-2005/community/post/doctor-who-season-8-opinions-good-or-bad-141470299550/
But I suppose all the people who didn't like it on that site are "sulkers" too.
RE: Dr Who - Doddle - 12-11-2014 19:01
(12-11-2014 12:58 )lazydayz Wrote:My point was that the views here are just as valid as the views anywhere else. Just because they don't accord with places elsewhere, doesn't make them wrong.(12-11-2014 08:27 )Doddle Wrote: It would be like living in Leicester and going "oh well, Nottingham liked it! Derby loved it!Exactly, good point what would Leicester be seeing the rest don't?
Everybody is entitle to like are dislike whatever they want, but the reason given on here tend to clash with the majority of the view. No idea why people are getting so uptight and sulky over my pointing that out.
This is a show about tolerating other viewpoints, after all.
Or it was.
RE: Dr Who - The Silent Majority - 12-11-2014 19:21
(12-11-2014 18:21 )lazydayz Wrote: When some one snaps at me 'WTF is wrong with you', I take that as sulking and intolerant of my views.
But that's the point, what views. We've yet to see a proper review of any of the episodes from you.
All you do is rubbish other peoples views without putting any forward any of your own (links don't count).
You liked the finale. Fine, tell us why........
RE: Dr Who - bytor - 12-11-2014 20:21
(12-11-2014 18:21 )lazydayz Wrote:(12-11-2014 18:12 )bytor Wrote:(12-11-2014 12:58 )lazydayz Wrote: Everybody is entitle to like are dislike whatever they want, but the reason given on here tend to clash with the majority of the view. No idea why people are getting so uptight and sulky over my pointing that out.
No one is sulking. Because many of us on this forum may have differing views from those you claim form the 'majority' doesn't make us wrong
Did you even read the post of mine you quoted? I have highlighted it for you for ease.
When some one snaps at me 'WTF is wrong with you', I take that as sulking and intolerant of my views.
Intolerant of you???????? Snap at you?? As a psychologist I was simply asking what was wrong with you in a terminology I thought you might understand. Certainly not snapping at you. That would be highly unprofessional.
RE: Dr Who - lazydayz - 13-11-2014 00:53
(12-11-2014 19:21 )The Silent Majority Wrote: But that's the point, what views. We've yet to see a proper review of any of the episodes from you.
All you do is rubbish other peoples views without putting any forward any of your own (links don't count).
You liked the finale. Fine, tell us why........
For once we agree, I have yet to see a proper review of any episode on here. Mostly it's bad acting this, bad writing that with no specifics. I could say the acting is fine, which is has been. I could say the writing has been fine, witting, subtle and so on, which it has been; but what would be the point? That would just be countering pointlessly what people have said here. I could do that for every episode but I suspect it would fall on deaf ears or eyes.
Why did I like the final? Well this once I will answer, it is only fair.
It was well acted, and was well written, it tied together all the loose links that had been running through out the series. It had 'pay offs', not only why there was the emphasis on Clara and Danny but also the random words and phrases that constantly popped up; 'shut up', 'correct, 'do as you are told' etc.
Missy was tremendously good, over the top in a good way and had the perfect mix of crazy, funny but menacing and frightening.
On acting Peter Capladi was good to the point of being TOO good an actor for the role. He could do wide eyed bemusement, curious, exasperated at the actions of the humans around him. He could be angry, ruthless, apparently heartless yet maintain the belief that it was necessary for the greater good. He could deliver tremendously tense and dramatic speeches, I'm thinking in particular of the 'you betrayed me/ you let me down' speech in Dark water.
It had a wonderful and very touching nod to the Brig
I like how Osgood was killed off, Danny was killed off, Seb was killed off; which continues the thread of a much darker doctor who, yet at the same time does not loose any of it's humour with both obvious humour but also in this series the slippy great one liners.
There has been sayings that stuck with me, 'hugs are just a way to hide your face'.
I liked the night of the living dead vibe going on.
Yes, the Cybermen could fly, why not? Cyberman pollen could created full metal suits around the rotten dead, but, so what? it's a plot device it's a program about an impossible timelord with an impossible TARDIS, I'm fine with these things I go with the flow.
Danny had a great send off and was the hero of the hour
The parting with him and Clara was emotional but restrained.
I liked how Missy 'wanted' to have her friend back and the doctor probably wanted it to but he still would have killed her to save Clara from being a murderer.
I like Clara as a companion (the episode 'listen' and the connection with the timeline was one of the best doctor who episodes I think I have seen) and her ballsy attitude which was balanced right in the finale.
I think the only thing I didn't like and rolled my eyes at with Missy descending as Mary Poppins with umbrella; that was just naff.
I could go into much more detail but you get the general drift.
RE: Dr Who - lazydayz - 13-11-2014 00:56
(12-11-2014 20:21 )bytor Wrote: Intolerant of you???????? Snap at you?? As a psychologist I was simply asking what was wrong with you in a terminology I thought you might understand. Certainly not snapping at you. That would be highly unprofessional.
Well I felt snapped, as a 'psychologist' you must take responsibility for the great and very deep psychological problems you create.
