Quote:Brock Lesnar's striking has been better than Shane Carwin's striking since the Couture fight and it has shown, but people seem to overlook this.

I will backup my claims with a few notes from some of their fights.

The first thing I want to look at is the flurry Frank Mir threw at Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin.





Take a look at how Brock and Shane defend against the flurry. Here are some things Shane did wrong and things Brock did differently:
- Shane backed away straight and threw his hands like a maniac with his chin in the air and ended up getting caught with an elbow.

- Brock Lesnar, however, backed up and moved off to the side with his arm out keeping Mir at distance with his shoulder protecting the left side of his face and his right hand protecting the right. He didn't throw like a maniac, he kept his cool, slipping a cross from Mir as he was backing away to the side.

Notice what Carwin throws at Frank Mir as he is rushing in is just a 1-2 over and over and I couldn't stress this enough. When someone sees that Carwin's only offense is the 1-2, it's easily avoidable by a mediocre striker. Take a look at how Frank Mir knows exactly what's coming from Carwin and ducks under the 1-2 before Carwin even throws the 2.

Let me explain the knees that hit Brock Lesnar. If you take a look at the first knee, it's just as Lesnar goes in for the leg of Frank Mir. Everybody knows that when you go for a single or double leg, there is a high chance of you getting kneed in the face. Lesnar ate the shot, backed Mir into the cage and went for the other leg, and the same thing happened. Mir jumped with the knee.

If you look after the second knee, Lesnar still has the presence of mind to pull Mir's leg so that his back is away from the cage. These are small details that are overlooked because he got hit and these two knees made everyone believe that Lesnar has horrible striking.

Carwin has very basic standup (a 1-2 with power behind it), no kicks, no elbows, no mixing of combinations, no moving around, nothing.

I'll present to you some gifs from the Couture fight that show Lesnar doing things that Carwin has never shown us before. People often forget how good Lesnar looked against Couture in the standup, especially in his 3rd UFC fight ever.



Lesnar throws a left hook as he steps to the side, chin down, and slips an overhand counter by Couture.



Couture comes in with an uppercut, Lesnar steps to the side to avoid it (and notice how he digs his chin down, like your supposed to do), throws a left and right hook that lands.



Hands up, chin down, Lesnar showing great reflexes sees Couture coming in and throws a standing elbow that rocks him.



Lesnar throws a left which Couture throws an overhand right to counter, Lesnar rolls his shoulder away from it and answers with an uppercut to the body.



Double jab, then slipping a counter.



Basic head and foot movement that we have never seen Carwin utilize.



Couture comes in with an overhand right, Lesnar shrugs it and counters with an uppercut.

What these prove:
Fact is, these are little details that are completely overlooked when judging Carwin vs Lesnar.

Another important thing to note is that the training camp for Frank Mir was completely a grappling and wrestling based camp. The camp for Shane Carwin is a kickboxing camp and he is bringing in world class kickboxers in to help him prepare. And you know how fast Lesnar improves and learns. I say that even without this camp, Lesnar was still a better striker, but it's often overlooked.

(11-06-2010 07:02 )groundnpound Wrote:  Yeah looking forward to seeing him Mitchell!
Should be a decent event...
What about the main event..who you fancy?
Hope Chuck wins