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RE: Ashes Series 2017/18 - Charlemagne - 28-12-2017 23:25
At 491-9 should England declare before play.
By declaring England will get any early movement in the pitch.
Or should they bat on and hopefully pass 500.
RE: Ashes Series 2017/18 - William H Bonney - 29-12-2017 02:55
(28-12-2017 23:25 )Charlemagne Wrote: At 491-9 should England declare before play.
England's innings only lasted one more ball anyway. Cook remained 244 not out.
Australia are 70/2 at lunch, which England would probably have settled for.
RE: Ashes Series 2017/18 - straw man - 29-12-2017 03:09
(28-12-2017 05:31 )Hawaiian Brian Wrote: I always knew when I'd nicked it.
That's a completely illogical statement. If you nicked it without knowing, by definition you couldn't know that you'd nicked it.
RE: Ashes Series 2017/18 - Hawaiian Brian - 29-12-2017 05:52
(29-12-2017 03:09 )straw man Wrote:(28-12-2017 05:31 )Hawaiian Brian Wrote: I always knew when I'd nicked it.
That's a completely illogical statement. If you nicked it without knowing, by definition you couldn't know that you'd nicked it.
I disagree. I can't recall ever being given out caught behind off an outside edge where I didn't feel in my hands and hear the nick. I can remember being given out lbw several times when I had both felt and heard the inside edge. Hence the commentators' disbelief that neither Vince or Malan referred the decisions.
I see your point that it must be feasible to have such a fine nick that you would neither feel it or hear it, therefore you would not know that you had nicked it. To have two instances of that in the same innings is almost unbelievable, which leads me to believe there must be other factors in play.
Maybe the crowd noise would explain why they didn't hear the nick; Malan's nick was a big one which deviated the ball onto his pads, so he surely would have felt it in his hands. Were they reluctant to refer because they are relative newcomers to the test side and didn't want to be responsible for losing a referral? Surely not.
The argument for nicking it without knowing it is reinforced by the fact that Cook apparently asked both batsmen if they had nicked it during discussions over a possible referral, and presumably both said no.
That amazed me and the commentators who know a lot more about cricket than me, so I remain flummoxed by it all.
RE: Ashes Series 2017/18 - Hawaiian Brian - 29-12-2017 06:04
Rain, rain, go away
RE: Ashes Series 2017/18 - circles_o_o_o - 29-12-2017 15:25
Anderson must have made a little history on day 4. He faced the first ball of the day as a batsman, then bowled the second ball of the day as a bowler.
RE: Ashes Series 2017/18 - Charlemagne - 29-12-2017 17:52
Cook's 244 runs was the highest scored at the MCG by a player who has batted through an innings.
RE: Ashes Series 2017/18 - William H Bonney - 29-12-2017 19:04
(29-12-2017 05:52 )Hawaiian Brian Wrote: Were they reluctant to refer because they are relative newcomers to the test side and didn't want to be responsible for losing a referral?
Obviously not. They considered referring but didn't refer because on both occasions Cook said it looked out to him.
RE: Ashes Series 2017/18 - HannahsPet - 29-12-2017 20:07
(29-12-2017 17:52 )Charlemagne Wrote: Cook's 244 runs was the highest scored at the MCG by a player who has batted through an innings.
Was A world record for anyone carrying his bat as its called
RE: Ashes Series 2017/18 - Chunter - 29-12-2017 20:21
(29-12-2017 20:07 )HannahsPet Wrote:(29-12-2017 17:52 )Charlemagne Wrote: Cook's 244 runs was the highest scored at the MCG by a player who has batted through an innings.
Was A world record for anyone carrying his bat as its called
Only a Test record; first-class record is 359* by Samit Gohel last winter http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8050/scorecard/1053695/gujarat-vs-odisha-3rd-quarter-final-ranji-trophy-2016-17/