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RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - lovebabes56 - 14-07-2022 05:22
Revising my final two :
Sunak & Mordaunt and what happens if one candidate gets thirty votes, and nobody else does?
And of the remaining candidates would any of them gamble and go for a snap election once elected?
RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - HannahsPet - 14-07-2022 07:39
Seems to be an active campaign against mourdant now which makes me think they are scared of her
RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - southsidestu - 14-07-2022 14:17
Sunak 101
Mordaunt 83
Truss 64
Badenoch 49
Tugendhat 32
Braverman 27
Braverman is out. 120 needed to make the final ballot so Sunak all but confirmed. It will be interesting to see to what extent the Braverman & Badenoch votes go to Truss which is what she needs to get ahead of Mordaunt or whether their second preference is Sunak because they think he has a better chance of beating Starmer and Mordaunt is able to take the remaining spot
RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - HannahsPet - 14-07-2022 15:02
What happens if Rishi gets the 120 next round will he order his minions to vote against truss or mourdant
can see liz truss winning this thing
time for the stuff about her banging kwasi Kwartang to come out this weekend
RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - Charlemagne - 14-07-2022 15:50
Lizz Truss proved her leadership qualities today when she couldn't even find her way out of the room during her press conference.
RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - Tractor boy - 14-07-2022 18:11
(14-07-2022 15:50 )Charlemagne Wrote: Lizz Truss proved her leadership qualities today when she couldn't even find her way out of the room during her press conference.
The sign said way out, turn left Truss said the Lady's not for turning.
RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - Snooks - 14-07-2022 18:20
There is a degree of merit into thinking Truss may well win this thing now.
The numbers may well end up with Truss finishing top of the MP vote.
It is difficult to see the right wing Badenoch or Braverman supporters going anywhere but to Truss because they all seem hell bent on stopping Mordaunt getting into the top 2 run off.
Mordaunt seems to be winning the party membership vote against all other candidates convincingly. This makes her the main target.
If we assume Truss gets all the Braverman and Badenoch supporters she ends up on 140.
Sunak is on 101 at the moment with Mordaunt on 83.
Part of the key then becomes where do the 32 Tugendhat votes go.
If they all go to Mordaunt she is on 115.
However if Sunak just gets 8 of them and Mordaunt 24 that puts Sunak on 109 and Mordaunt on 107 which would create a Sunak v Truss run off.
Now let's say Mordaunt does get all 32 of Tugendhats votes to reach 115.
The Truss camp may then say ok let's lend Sunak 15 of the Truss votes to get him 1 in front of Mordaunt and knock Mordaunt out.
Truss could afford to do this knowing that 140 minus 15 = 125 which still puts her top.
The logic being that Truss v Sunak is easier for Truss to win than Truss v Mordaunt.
All manner of tactical skullduggery is possible
.The Tories are the masters of dark arts shithousery remember
RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - lovebabes56 - 14-07-2022 18:21
^Quoting Thatcher...
I take it now Mordaunt probably would be the shock winner and would Truss' popularity last long enough to see it through to next election?
RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - lovebabes56 - 15-07-2022 08:23
I wonder if (or more than likely) Sunak wins the leadership & the title of PM, will that make Boris even more determined to stay squatting in No.10 as long as possible, rather than give the keys to Sunak? .P
RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - SecretAgent - 15-07-2022 08:51
Mordaunt would not be the shock winner as polling shows she’d beat Sunak in the Conservative Party run off. She’s a Brexit liar though from the Johnson school of immigration lies. When challenged this week on her 2016 lie that the UK did not have a veto on Turkey membership (remember that disgusting poster the Leave campaign used to represent millions of Turkish citizens flooding into the UK) she doubled down on it.
Lord Frost (another liar who claimed we’d got a great deal from the EU only to now claim it was rubbish) has this week said Mordaunt is useless. She certainly seems to have risen without trace.
Of the remaining candidates Truss has never had a principled decision she’s not bern prepared to change if it furthered her career and of course she’s actually signed trade deals which in the Government’s own assessment will damage the UK economy.
Tugendhat, Badenoch & Sunak seem to be the least objectionable but that is a relative term in this race.