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RE: Petition - continental19 - 06-09-2011 17:28
(06-09-2011 00:17 )eccles Wrote:Cheers Eccles I'll put my name down(05-09-2011 22:34 )continental19 Wrote: Hi Eccles you no this petition, do we need to fill out our home address and our surname? The reason why I'm asking is purly for security reasons that's all.
You must have a real postcode. As far as I can see they dont check against the Electoral Register and as people move I dont see that would be possible, so you could use a mates address if, say, you are a Cabinet Minister worried about privacy. There dont even seem to be any account management options so EVEN YOU CANT SEE YOUR DETAILS. They say the only thing they use contacts for are to update you about that petition, nothing else. They dont write to the address. And its perfectly legal to use variations of your name, like your middle name and your Mums maiden name. Just dont sign up as Mickey Mouse or Ian Paisley please.
]There you go Eccles I've just put my name down let's get our babe channels back.
RE: Petition - Winston Wolfe - 07-09-2011 19:20
Don't worry, I've hired Bruce to help you guys out...
RE: Petition - continental19 - 07-09-2011 19:54
It's been mentioned a few times before, but the word what springs to mind concerning Ofcom and there mysterious fines is " SCAPEGOATS ". Now when you think of the series Torchwood, and we have simulated gay sex at around 9.30pm on BBC which is after the watershed for adult entertainment, ofcom seems A OK with this sexual behaviour.
Now ofcom state that the Babe channels are for sexual pleasure and no pussy is allowed to be shown, which can cause offence? mmmh. I'm confused? Is ofcom saying that man on man gay sex is ok but lesbian sex on sex channels is not permitted? is a mans penis far more respectable than a woman's vagina? mmmh
It just seems to get stranger and stranger, this reminds me of the referees in the premiership " Where is the consistency "?? At least Sky has given people the choice to block these channels with a pin number which takes minutes to do, where BBC channels which air Torchwood is free to air? I really think something is not right here, and it all leads back to Ofcom? Why are they so quick to start fining the babe channels just for the sake of girl on girl action and flashing a bit of pussy? As far as i'm aware a vagina hasn't changed for thousands of yrs and we all no what one looks like, so what's all the Fuss about.
I just think it's another way for Ofcom to line there own pockets with these ridicules fines, in other words to use the babe channels as easy pray, whenever they want a cash injection.
RE: Petition - Chilly - 07-09-2011 20:14
^^^^ Erm, but the fines go to the OPG. I do agree about the babe channels being an easy target, but in so many ways the channels make themselves an easy target.
RE: Petition - eccles - 07-09-2011 20:21
Its totally inconsistent. Sexual content has occasionally been shown within minutes of the watershed on mainstream channels with large family audiences where it might not be expected. But when it comes to clearly labellel adult channels the period for a gradul transition to stronger content is 2 or even 3 hours. Even then simulated girl-girl sex is not permitted at all under the rules. The fact that it sometimes happens is beside the point.
RE: Petition - shutty1971 - 09-09-2011 17:56
I SIGNED THIS PETITION LAST MONTH AND I THINK IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT ALL THE BABE SHOWS STARTED STANDING UP 4 THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF LETTING OFSCUM RULE THEM LONG LIVE THE BABESHOWS
RE: Petition - continental19 - 09-09-2011 18:09
I agree with you, I think the producers of the Babe channels could do a lot more in my opinion. I guess the question we have to ask ourselves is how badly the producers of these channels want change?
I mean if the babe channels are happy with the way things are going, then that's the way it'll be for a while, however if there not happy with the way things are then I think they have to put up with it and don't start moaning and complaining why there phone calls have dropped, because the public are fed up watching the same old same old every night. But I agree long live the babe shows, let's hope Ofcom crumble in a heap.
RE: Petition - shankey! - 09-09-2011 18:30
(09-09-2011 18:09 )continental19 Wrote: I agree with you, I think the producers of the Babe channels could do a lot more in my opinion. I guess the question we have to ask ourselves is how badly the producers of these channels want change?
I mean if the babe channels are happy with the way things are going, then that's the way it'll be for a while, however if there not happy with the way things are then I think they have to put up with it and don't start moaning and complaining why there phone calls have dropped, because the public are fed up watching the same old same old every night. But I agree long live the babe shows, let's hope Ofcom crumble in a heap.
mines a simple question,why havent any of the babes themselves signied it?they are members on here as well,you can tell by the look on their faces that they are fed up with being told off for a nip slip at 9.55 at night or the slightest ass cheek turned to the cam when not supposed to be !
RE: Petition - continental19 - 09-09-2011 21:10
(09-09-2011 18:30 )shankey! Wrote: mines a simple question,why havent any of the babes themselves signied it?they are members on here as well,you can tell by the look on their faces that they are fed up with being told off for a nip slip at 9.55 at night or the slightest ass cheek turned to the cam when not supposed to be !
Well again you've raised a valid point, but let's face it the common denominator of all of this is " OFCOM " if they would have left Things as they were then we wouldn't be having all these issues. But human nature is a strange thing, we tend to get use to anything, and I think this has what's happened over the last few yrs.
Instead of the babe channels, and even the babes themselves getting involved a lot more, maybe they've just all accepted that this is the way it's going to be? I don't have all the answers, I wish I did lol, but if you want something bad enough you'll do anything to keep hold of it and this includes the babe channels.
RE: Petition - Light Entertainment - 09-09-2011 22:05
(09-09-2011 18:30 )shankey! Wrote: mines a simple question,why havent any of the babes themselves signied it?they are members on here as well,you can tell by the look on their faces that they are fed up with being told off for a nip slip at 9.55 at night or the slightest ass cheek turned to the cam when not supposed to be !
As I see it, there's a high risk that, if successful, a petition like this could put some or even all babeshows out of business. If Ofcom relaxed the rules on sexual content, it wouldn't just be babeshows who'd be at liberty to take immediate advantage of the new situation. Once you uncensor content in the way many of the people signing this petition would like, there's no reason why you can't get 'porn' springing up everywhere - not just on babe channels. By 'porn' I simply mean explicit sexually-themed material, there for its own sake and with no other context. Even one or more of the 'big' mainstream channels may consider adult-themed content for through-the-night transmission if it was established that public opposition no longer existed, and the regulators were to lift the current restrictions. This would assume something of a cultural change in the UK of course, but without that cultural change, a petition of this type could never achieve its aims anyway.
Who knows for sure what effect the above would have, but it's hard to see the babeshows in their current format being able to brush off a much wider realm of available adult entertainment across more powerful channels - much of it perhaps offered as a completely free experience for the viewer and financed by a trad advertising model. I can't really imagine how you could open the floodgates to 'free TV porn', and not see a catastrophic plunge in business for all pay-service sex-themed formats virtually overnight.
As StanTheMan says, the babeshows have a nice little business going (well, it's quite a big business in some cases). Change the boundaries, and potentially, babeshows suddenly have to compete with a raft of much more visually explicit content than a lot of their own girls are prepared to provide. Consider that the alternatives could be free, and where does that leave the babe channels, with what in all honesty is an expensive and notoriously unreliable service? Some niche viewers would doubtless still follow the babeshows (I would). But how many of those casual viewers considered so important by some shows would still spend money on babe channel services when they could just flick channels and bash one off over a 'sanitised porn film'? If the casual viewers are as big a commercial component as some channel reps have implied, the result as I see it could be a crisis for some babeshows, and the end for others.
True, it is a pain for the channels having to 'police' slips and stay compliant - especially when an act is used to more explicit work and being 'free and easy' with her performances. But my sense is that the channels would much rather put up with that little bit of hassle and observe the current rules, than open the whole thing up to the prospect of 'free TV porn' and all the commercial risk that would bring. Babeshows are at least in part a product of the environment, and commercially they thrive on not being able to show or say certain things. But what's most important at present is that no one else can come along and show/say those things - not for the purpose of sexual stimulation, anyway. If they could, suddenly it would be a completely different environment.
I respect the efforts of those who've stood up for what they believe in with this petition, but my impression is that the shows themselves very avidly don't want anything changed. I'd rather have babeshows as they are than a homogenised loop of 'sanitised porn films' every night, which could very well be where night time TV would head if explicit sexual material became viable for free to air transmission. I fall into the "careful what you wish for" category. But that's only my perception, of course.