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RE: England's Tour of Australia - Ashes, ODIs and T20s 13/14 - sweetsugar007 - 23-11-2013 17:34

(23-11-2013 16:28 )lancealot790 Wrote:  Too early to write England off just yet, they may lose this test but there are four more to come. I have no real problems with Cooks lack of runs as he is a world class player and will come good eventually, Trotts track record is pretty good and he should be given the chance to regain his form, its a bit unfair to describe Peiterson as a flat track bully, he is England,s most destructive player and can change the course of any game game in an hour. Carberry should never have been chosen, he is just not good enough to play test cricket, i have seen him play a few times and his technique is deeply flawed. As for the others Prior should be given a couple more matches before we consider someone else, the bowlers pick themselves, Anderson and Broad are automatic picks with one place up for grabs, Tremlett was chosen because of his previous ashes performance when we were last here, Finn might be a quicker bowler but he leaks far too many runs and if he does not take wickets then he is a major liability to the bowling unit. I really don,t want to see a return to the old days of English cricket when people were constantly being dropped after a few bad games only to be picked again when their replacements failed.

Dont think anyone writing them off just making observations. I also said Trott needs to get this technical issue sorted its psychological really and probably need to tinker with his trigger movement when receiving.

When did Pietersen last change the course of a game within an hour when the team needed him!

So you saying Johnson is economical!! Finn and Johnson are very similar they do what it says on the tin. We should embrace it no other team in World Cricket would leave a guy out who could get the ball down consistently at 94mph does things to a batsmen head space!

No one says we should go back to the bad old days but change is imminent they are not a young team bar Root, Broad and poss Trott and Cook.


RE: England's Tour of Australia - Ashes, ODIs and T20s 13/14 - lancealot790 - 23-11-2013 18:44

You may have a point about Trotts footwork but he will sort that out, an hour may have been a slight exaggeration but Pieterson,s brilliant 186 against India in the 2nd test on the 2012/13 tour was the main reason we won our first series in India since 1985. He also hit the fastest test 50 by an England player in the final test against Australia earlier this year which would have been a match winning innings had the umpires not taken the teams off. As for Johnson he only got back in the aussie test side because of his performances in the one day series and because of a dearth of fast bowling talent in Australia.


RE: England's Tour of Australia - Ashes, ODIs and T20s 13/14 - William H Bonney - 24-11-2013 03:19

Lunch is taken with England on 98/3. Not a bad session overall despite Pietersen giving his wicket away this morning. Come on England, you can make a real fight of this!


RE: England's Tour of Australia - Ashes, ODIs and T20s 13/14 - cosmonaut - 24-11-2013 05:12

35 minutes before tea and we have a rain break. England are 142/4 with Cook and Root the batsmen. I say rain break but perhaps a hail break would be more accurate.


RE: England's Tour of Australia - Ashes, ODIs and T20s 13/14 - William H Bonney - 24-11-2013 05:46

That was more of a storm than a weather break, but as it happens the sun's out again anyway. The umpires have announced that tea was taken early, meaning therefore that we may not lose too much play. Any time lost might not work in England's favour anyhow, as it gives the Australian bowers a nice rest on what is a very hot day.


RE: England's Tour of Australia - Ashes, ODIs and T20s 13/14 - Boomerangutangangbang - 24-11-2013 10:24

Yet again wickets going down inclumps.as the fell from 142-4 to 151-8 losing 4-9.


RE: England's Tour of Australia - Ashes, ODIs and T20s 13/14 - Charlemagne - 24-11-2013 10:30

Pieterson followed Trott's lead and lobbed a shot down to square leg.

Is there a batsman who can handle a short straight fast ball bladewave


RE: England's Tour of Australia - Ashes, ODIs and T20s 13/14 - Boomerangutangangbang - 24-11-2013 10:55

What's the chances of England making any changes to this batting line-up that has been carried by their bowling attack for far too long,even to the extent that they have been scoring the runs for them aswell.More chance of Tremlett being re[placed by Finn or Bresnan.


RE: England's Tour of Australia - Ashes, ODIs and T20s 13/14 - Snooks - 24-11-2013 11:47

Dismal. England blown away again.
And we still have Perth to come later in the series with even more pace and bounce.
Oh deary deary me. This is starting to look very, very bleak indeed.


RE: England's Tour of Australia - Ashes, ODIs and T20s 13/14 - Charlemagne - 24-11-2013 12:53

We won one session of the entire match (day 1 pre lunch) and have been ripped apart in the other 7.

The batsmen have failed dismally. Swan and Anderson have had little impact on the fast bouncy wickets Sad

Broad is having to take on the Aussies signal handed