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RE: London Riots - iamthatjack - 09-08-2011 20:31
All police that I have experienced, yes. Racial profiling is not totally unjustifiable but if they released stats on the race of people stopped 'randomly', Caucasians will be minute in comparison to all other races, especially Asians and Blacks.
Having a gun is unacceptable, yes, but they surrounded the minicab he was in, he wasnt shooting them, why not take the gun and take him to jail? Did they have to shoot at him straight away?
I understand the difference between ''shot him'' and ''killed him'', and in this case they killed him, if they just shot him, he would have been shot in an area that is not fatal, such as leg or shoulder, not in the chest like they did! They killed him
RE: London Riots - brummie - 09-08-2011 20:33
When I was a kid i got a a ticking off from the local bobbie for riding my bike on the pavement, if only I'd known that entitled me to help myself to a plasma telly and a pair of trainers![/align]
RE: London Riots - Jusin Sayne - 09-08-2011 20:45
Top man. Inspiring post
(09-08-2011 20:28 )gazfc Wrote:(09-08-2011 20:00 )iamthatjack Wrote: In my experience, the police are racist. The number of times my friends and I have been 'randomly' stopped and searched is a joke. They way they talk and behave to us is unbelievable, and I live in a quiet, relatively affluent part of Surrey.
Until they explain what happened, then people will continue to think this way. He was in a mini cab, surrounded him, the policeman that got shot was shot by a police issued bullet, and yet they still killed him....very strange, no? That's partly why they rioted.
When I was younger I got arched plenty of times, I dealt with it, it fucking happens, to blame it on your race is a cop out. It's shit like that that has made this country such a fucking mess. Police can't do they job due to fear of been branded racist.
As for the police shooting, he had a gun so deserved to be shot and he doesn't have to fire, all he has to do is pose a threat, what should the coppers have done wait till he shot one of them?
RE: London Riots - Jusin Sayne - 09-08-2011 20:48
I am a reasonably liberal guy but I cannot understand the authority's stance now. Why not water cannon? This is as extreme as it can get, surely it warrants an equal response. It was used in Ireland, so why not on the mainland? It's utterly disheartening.
RE: London Riots - SYBORG666 - 09-08-2011 20:55
I've secured my house and i'm ready to give them hell if they try to attack my house.
I'm sick of people using the race card as an excuse to kick off.
RE: London Riots - brummie - 09-08-2011 21:06
(09-08-2011 20:55 )SYBORG666 Wrote: I've secured my house and i'm ready to give them hell if they try to attack my house.
I'm sick of people using the race card as an excuse to kick off.
OOh you mustn't do that you'll find yourself locked up for life if you dare raise your voice to the poor little lambs.What you should do is invite them in for a cup of tea and listen to all the hardship they have in their poor deprived lives them send them on their way with as much of your property as they can carry and see them off with a cheery wave.Thats the way things are done these days.
RE: London Riots - sweetsugar007 - 09-08-2011 21:08
It's time we gave the Police the tools to do the job. Arm them.This is standard even in extremely peaceful countries like Denmark. It's a deterrent at the very least.
I saw a 150 year old furniture shop burn to the ground yesterday a place my wife and I have used and the owners who had always had time to say hello to us. Armed police may have saved that business yesterday and the 20 jobs that probably went with it.
RE: London Riots - lucent-x - 09-08-2011 21:10
(09-08-2011 20:31 )iamthatjack Wrote: All police that I have experienced, yes. Racial profiling is not totally unjustifiable but if they released stats on the race of people stopped 'randomly', Caucasians will be minute in comparison to all other races, especially Asians and Blacks.
Having a gun is unacceptable, yes, but they surrounded the minicab he was in, he wasnt shooting them, why not take the gun and take him to jail? Did they have to shoot at him straight away?
I understand the difference between ''shot him'' and ''killed him'', and in this case they killed him, if they just shot him, he would have been shot in an area that is not fatal, such as leg or shoulder, not in the chest like they did! They killed him
Would you give even the slightest shit about this incident or Police procedure if he was white? Why can't you just see 'an armed man' rather than 'an armed black man'?
A shot to the chest is not always fatal, and I believe it's an acceptable target area. Shooting someone in a leg or arm does not necessarily incapacitate them enough to stop the threat of being shot at.
Has it even come to light what exactly happened? Did they give him any instructions? Did they ask him to throw out the gun? They do have professional procedures you know, they aren't just an indiscriminate hit squad.
I couldn't care less what colour this man's skin was; he had a gun, he got shot, he died. You'll have to excuse me if I don't read anymore into it than that. Maybe it will turn out that the officer who shot him was racist, but let's wait to see any evidence of this shall we. Maybe the officer who shot him was black, now that'd be an interesting development for you!
RE: London Riots - 199lives - 09-08-2011 21:20
It's alright guys they've found the guy to sort things out
(this is a surreal interview)
http://deadspin.com/5829111/
RE: London Riots - Regenerated - 09-08-2011 21:27
(09-08-2011 17:38 )cherry delainey Wrote: its just lazy fucks who cant be arsed to get a job and is using it as an excuse to rob everywhere!!! well pissed off that it's only like 5 minutes away from me at the moment
Keep safe Cherry. Don't be alone either, make sure there's someone with you.