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RE: Liverpool FC - The Truth - 25-05-2012 13:44
(25-05-2012 13:37 )Mr77 Wrote: I think at this moment in time Martinez is almost certain to be our manager within the week.
I'm willing to wager my cats left shoes he won't(he's got a few pairs),but I think It's a pretty safe bet
RE: Liverpool FC - broncobilly10 - 25-05-2012 14:03
Considering how bad wigan defend and how awful we defended this season appointing him is silly if we want to get top 4 we have to be solid and creative.
RE: Liverpool FC - The Truth - 25-05-2012 14:10
Dave whealan's,saying he's been offered the job,but not so sure because he's kinda rambling through his interview on ssn?
RE: Liverpool FC - mitchell - 25-05-2012 20:19
(25-05-2012 01:02 )Mr77 Wrote:(25-05-2012 00:42 )the truth Wrote: Did you not see are season
I don't think the time is right to see what some untested manager can do,not at this moment in time.
One pot,does not a season make
If not now then when ? How about we think about starting from the beginning and build up to winning the title somewhat like how it was done when Shanks took us from the 2nd division onto the path to massive success.
Spot on Mr77, it was the same with Dimitar Berbatov when he was at Bayer Leverkusen, none of the big clubs wanted to take the gamble so Tottenham went for it & then Utd saw the mistake they made & it cost them £20m more than it should've.
Most reds need to remember we've never challenged for the Premier League so how do you justify talking about challenging/winning titles???
Martinez is a young manager with mass potential so why not give him a chance as we can't fall behind anymore than we did last season, we've got a good squad of players if we use them right & whats to say Martinez won't do that, Wigan played football which is more than we did, loads of shots at goal isn't good football, Barca don't have a crazy amount of shots but still win games 2-0, 3-0, 4-0.....
We need a plan of 2 seasons to get a new formation & tactics & the team knowing how to produce the goods while using them to get back in the top 4, Martinez & our squad is good enough for that, fprmation & tactics next season & maybe even a top 4 finish but if not them the season after, remember there's 6 teams who are now going for the big money places so 2 are gonna miss out.
the truth how can you not want a new exciting young manager yet want an old head for 2 year before Carra takes over to go back to the old boot room days. This is what you said about Roberto Martinez. "I don't think the time is right to see what some untested manager can do,not at this moment in time". Isn't it the same for Carra???
Carra would be about 36 with no experience & going back to the boot room days would be. "Liverpool will not go back down memory lane,of that I am certain". What you said about us bringing Rafa back.
Pep Guardiola a much as I'd love it, I don't see it. Yes this is the kind of club where he can build from the start with young players & a good academy set up but I just don't see it especially if he wants big wages & transfer sums, Martinez won't want any of this & plays a good game he's already established in the hardest league in the world.
In Spain the club prestdent has a big say on transfers & this was Rafa's problem at Valencia, so when he came to us & the cluless twats gave him everything he asked for he took it too far, I doubt he'd argue if he was told by John W. Henry that his job was manager & nothing else.
Director of football, I just dont see why we need one & why this has become a big must have. Who told the owners about this role as I doubt they knew of it before they bought the club, whoever it was needs to be shot, idiots.
I get what your saying cosmonaut but I think Rafa would work well with the owners if he had a talk with them, the reason he had problems with the last fools is the money wasn't there for a massive player drive of about 4 or 5 players coming in without any going out to bring money in, yes he spent a lot but we had to sell to buy aswell & as I've said our squad is decent with the injured players back so we only need to tinker with the tactics & formation & one thing Rafa is good at is tactics.
The situation looks like Roberto Martinez will be manager next week unless the director of football role becomes a massive issue, it's not an issue or role we need!!! Oh & Dave Whelan needs to stop being Sky Sports bitch & keep our business away from the public untill we're ready to release it.
RE: Liverpool FC - LODOS - 25-05-2012 20:23
I think the prospect of martinez at liverpool is very exciting
RE: Liverpool FC - broncobilly10 - 25-05-2012 20:54
Yes shut up dave whelan
RE: Liverpool FC - The Truth - 25-05-2012 20:57
(25-05-2012 20:19 )mitchell Wrote: Spot on Mr77...
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Before I respond to your post & your sky reporter style of twisting quotes,I'll have you no I was at both cup finals this season & even left the country for a few weeks after the chelsea match(granted the sh#t was already booked),but I don't like the implication I'm not a true red.RE BOOTROOM-RAFA-CARRA-MARTINEZ & MEMORY LANE:I have no problem with employing a young manager,as long as he has some form of pedigree not because he can play nice football and survive a cpl of relegation battles-Carra situation,Working alongside someone like Van Haal in some form of coaching role will gain him experience plus he will already have the respect of the players(some of whom wouldn't get in the wigan team).The point re:Rafa & memory lane,we've just gone that route with the KING and sadly never worked out.
So in conclusion Youthful manager yes eventually but right now i'm tired of slipping into obscurity and just want to be back where we belong.
RE: Liverpool FC - mitchell - 25-05-2012 23:28
- Whats you being at both cup finals & then going on holiday got to do with anything I said.?
- Your not a ture red. What?
- Roberto Martinez has got some pedigree!
- Louis van Gaal won't get the liverpool job & I doubt he'll ever manage in the Premier League unless Villa all of a sudden get some ambition & like I said he's an egotistical twat.
- Carra still wont have any managerial expreience so is even less likely to succeed than Martinez no matter how you try & put it your contradicting yourself.
- Martinez will have the respect of the players I only know Chelsea to be the only team where this hasn't happened, due to some of their players thinking they're bigger than any manager or club. All of our player would get in Wigan's team!
- Rafa is different to Kenny as Kenny hasn't got the tactical nous of the modern game like Rafa.
"Where we belong" This is the sort of statement that fucks me off. Belong where?? we're already there, cups wise, what have we ever done in the Premier League to suggest we deserve better than we've had so far???
RE: Liverpool FC - Mr77 - 26-05-2012 00:02
Quote:"Where we belong" This is the sort of statement that fucks me off. Belong where?? we're already there, cups wise, what have we ever done in the Premier League to suggest we deserve better than we've had so far???
Exactly
RE: Liverpool FC - The Truth - 26-05-2012 01:12
(25-05-2012 23:28 )mitchell Wrote: "Where we belong" This is the sort of statement that fucks me off. Belong where?? we're already there, cups wise, what have we ever done in the Premier League to suggest we deserve better than we've had so far???
I don't give a rinky dink what f#@ks you off son! We're Liverpool fc and we do belong challenging for premiership titles,no matter what you think,and let's see if your views change if Martinez gets the gig and f@#ks up any title winning aspirations we might have.
Also as a Liverpool supporter I will always give a chance to whoever we install as boss,whether my choice or not.