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RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - lovebabes56 - 26-06-2016 08:05
I suppose two good things could happen
1) We can European fishermen to f**k off from our fishing waters
2) We can close our end of the Channel Tunnel
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - The Silent Majority - 26-06-2016 08:09
(26-06-2016 08:05 )babelover48 Wrote: 2) We can close our end of the Channel Tunnel
The first step to maintaining free trade
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - ShandyHand - 26-06-2016 08:46
(26-06-2016 07:43 )Bandwagon Wrote:(26-06-2016 07:21 )Doddle Wrote:Crying out loud(26-06-2016 00:19 )Bandwagon Wrote: SORRYYes, but on YOUR terms! Not theirs!
But let me be clear, I do not want Scotland to leave and nor do I want Northern Ireland.
I want us all to stand together and be a prosperous Great Britain
I tell you what then Doddle, just because Scotland isn't happy, let's go crawling back to Europe and let them dry hump us right up the shit box forever and a day, how does that sound?
Yeah and this way is better - letting Boris, Farage and their ilk take turns at the lube-less DP - with less and less oversight in how they can fuck us over.
The EU is deeply problematic but you don't make a prison sentence better by limiting the amount of jail reformers. Checks and balances are required in democracy.
But moving forward, it seems no one politician wishes to be seen as responsible for triggering the actual Brexit now that we have it. I don't blame them for feeling that way. Who would wish to be tarnished with the possible shit storm to come? No-one is any clearer on how the detail of this is going to come out than they were on Thursday. And it is already becoming seismic in its repercussions on the Westminster scene.
This 'period of reflection' from the politicians is actually a period of 'how can I make this work to the benefit of my career'. Only when they have decided this will we see some action.
My guess is they will try to limit Brexits effects as much as possible in the end and rewrite the status quo as quickly as possibe, just in another form. Very little of substance (i.e the things that were argued over endlessly in this debate) will be changed in 5 or 10 years time. Those that voted Leave hoping for vast change in these major areas will be bitterly disappointed by it is my feeling.
What will change on the quiet will be certain deregulation. Brexit will be used to make money by certain elite in this way - of that you can be sure. And it will fuck the general populous over in them doing so.
It was ever thus.
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - lovebabes56 - 26-06-2016 08:50
(26-06-2016 07:49 )The Silent Majority Wrote: The BBC are claiming HSBC are planning to move 1000 jobs (dealing with euro payments) to Paris, in the event of leaving the single market.
HSBC declined to comment.
I'd like to know exactly what they are basing their claims on!!
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - brummie - 26-06-2016 09:34
The whole Leave campaign was one series of lies and misrepresentations after another ,aided and abetted by far right bullshit spreaders like the Express and Mail plus Murdoch's mouthpiece.
No 350million pound a week windfall for the NHS , that was 'a mistake' , now leave campaigners admit that leaving will make no difference to immigration and we will likely still have free movement of labour.
Of course all these admissions only come after the votes have been counted, wouldn't want people knowing what they were voting for would we?
So it seems we've trashed the economy, destroyed peoples futures and almost certainly broken up the UK so some Brexiters can beat their chests and shout 'we're British we are'. When a knobhead like Nigel Forage standing next to a Nazi style propaganda poster appears to have more influence than expert analysis and sheer common sense that's a sure sign Britain, sorry England, has become a pretty unsavoury place to live and the far right is on the move.
Still not sure what crime the EU is supposed to have committed that was worth sacrificing the economy over. Was it the cheaper air fare, the environmental cleanliness or perhaps it was the protection of workers right or tougher consumer protection? The bastards how dare they look after ordinary British people better than barmy Boris ever will, a man who hasn't learned to brush his hair and struggles to put a coherent sentence together.
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - brummie - 26-06-2016 09:35
Perfect analysis of the Leave camping liars
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/boris-johnson-michael-gove-eu-liars
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - SecretAgent - 26-06-2016 09:51
Brummie I think I recall that we are from different ends of the political spectrum but well said sir. I support everything you say.
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - HannahsPet - 26-06-2016 10:07
IBS now saying they will get EU Immigration down to tens of thousands by next general election
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - HannahsPet - 26-06-2016 10:26
Wonder why no channel has passport to pimlico on wonder its in case it gives people ideas
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - The Silent Majority - 26-06-2016 10:31
The more I think about it, the more I think this wasn't Boris's plan. I think he expected a Remain victory over a sizeable Leave minority. Then he could spend the next 3 years chipping away at Cameron before entering No10 in 2019 and fighting the next election as the Eurosceptic PM of a Britain in Europe.
He was, after all, a very late conversion to Leave and he had nothing to lose, unlike Gove & Co.