Ofcom Discussion - Printable Version +- The UK Babe Channels Forum (https://www.babeshows.co.uk) +-- Forum: Channels (/forumdisplay.php?fid=8) +--- Forum: UK Babe Channels (/forumdisplay.php?fid=9) +---- Forum: Broadcasting Regulations (/forumdisplay.php?fid=138) +---- Thread: Ofcom Discussion (/showthread.php?tid=14756) Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 |
RE: Ofcom Discussion - continental19 - 11-07-2012 17:44 I've mentioned this before, but what really pisses me off is that are freedom of choice is being taken away Ofcom feel they have the right to tell us what we can and cannot watch this is something the ITC left well alone. I mean for goodness sake parents surely no how to be responsible with regards protecting there freeview/Sky adult pin codes from there children? Oh i see Ofcom don't feel that the majority of parents in the UK are responsible enough for there children, so is Ofcom wanting to regulate parenting now This lame argument that Ofcom are trying to portray is bloody ridicules By hook or by crook Ofcom must be stopped or have its powers taken away, either which way i frankly don't give a shit. As I've mentioned in my previous post 9pm means 9pm after that time is Adult viewing and its up to the parents to do whats right for there children. RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 11-07-2012 22:01 Ofcom Content Committee Minutes 24 (7&8 Feb 2005): Quote:Draft Broadcasting Code: Under 18s Came true didnt it. RE: Ofcom Discussion - dan g 27 - 11-07-2012 22:41 (11-07-2012 22:01 )eccles Wrote: Came true didnt it.I'm not understanding the contents of the quote, can someone explain it? RE: Ofcom Discussion - munch1917 - 11-07-2012 23:08 (11-07-2012 22:41 )dan g 27 Wrote: I'm not understanding the contents of the quote, can someone explain it? It suggests that the draft broadcasting code which was being considered may lead to multiple watersheds being established instead of a single watershed which denotes when more adult broadcasting may begin. We do now have multiple watersheds. On the main channels, 9pm is the supposed watershed after which stronger content may be broadcast, but on the adult channels, no boobs before 10pm, and adult channels are not supposed to broadcast at all on freeview before midnight. Different content has different watersheds! RE: Ofcom Discussion - Scottishbloke - 11-07-2012 23:26 And this is exactly what highlight's the hypocrisy of Ofcom's stance with regard to the Adult Channels, total prejudice. It's either all ok or none of it is. This different regulation because it's classed as a teleshopping channel is bullshit and questions the whole integrity of having a regulator in the first place. Talk about moving the goalposts to suit ones self RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 12-07-2012 00:20 Thanks to Munch for clarifying that. Heres another then I will stop dredging up ancient history. Content Committee Minutes 12 (16 Feb 2004) Quote:15. The Content Board AGREED that it should play a prominent role during Phase 2 of the project in examining different approaches to providing a safe environment for younger Ofcom take some kind of absolutist stance now, assessing "harm" regardless of the wider social context of internet porn, top shelf mags, sexting, hedge porn and DVD swopping. Back in 2004 when Ofcom was finding its feet they thought the (still to be defined) Broadcasting Code should have some connection to reality. RE: Ofcom Discussion - Tonywauk - 12-07-2012 09:18 Of course the re-classifcation of the so-called 'Babe' channels so that they fit within the pre-defined limits designated for shopping channels demonstrates a total lack of flexibility, an inability to consider different channels by different criteria and is total nonsense. Mind you the channels modus operandi of using the on-screen visuals as a teaser for the telephone service rather plays into the regulator's hands. RE: Ofcom Discussion - fedup1 - 12-07-2012 22:09 Yes ofcom are a bunch of hyprocrytes and its still the vagina thats causing the trouble.. An 8 year old lad emailed bbc2 ar 8.50pm to ask a question about volcanos on a volcano programme but if that lad had turned to channel 4 he would have been met with penises and operations..Had that lad waited another 15 minutes and switched to channel 5 he would have had an onslaught of strong language.Kids have tvs in their bedrooms ofcom and can see the lot EXCEPT FEMALE GENATALIA..So schoolkids can tune in and the lasses can see real life penises but the lads will only see porn vaginas.. Things i noted this week and BBFC lose control of gamesratings. http://melonfarmers.wordpress.com/2012/07/11/game-over-for-the-bbfc-game-censors-of-the-gra-to-take-over-from-the-bbfc-on-the-30th-july-2012/ ed richards sees his arse, http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jul/12/ofcom-chief-press-regulator?newsfeed=true Keep this stuff coming and lets disrupt ofcom/bbfc as much as possible. RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 13-07-2012 01:41 Good link from Fedup to the Guardian article about Ed Richards telling Lord Justice Levenson how to regulate the free press. This link works for me, the other one freezes, no idea why Guardian Quote:Ofcom chief Ed Richards has hit out at plans put forward by Lord Black to create a new press regulator, arguing that having serving editors involved in adjudications on complaints would be unworkable. Ed Richards represents Ofcom, an organisation so independent of broadcasters that not a single member of the content committee or the full board has any in depth experience of producing, directing or acting in prime time drama. Experience is limited to journalism, animation and, in one case, a short period as a junior researcher. So far as I am aware no broadcaster has ever been involved in workshops to outline Broadcasting Code options or stress test draft provisions. However the whole concept of independence flies out of the window when it comes to approaching regulation independent of previous Ofcom decisions. Fines, banning orders, in breach decisions, drafting the Broadcasting Code and deciding on consultation responses are all handled by the same crowd of people who report to the same managers. Some are on temporary contracts where the basis for renewal is not transparent. Initial case filtering and preliminary decisions are taken by junior staff further down the pecking order but they report to the same people. Its as if the local police were managed by the local magistrate and the local mayor had the power to renew their contracts or not. A particularly bad example was provided some years ago when the Kennell Club was pursuing a complaint against the BBC. Kath Worrall was a long standing member of the Content Committtee and the Broadcasting Standards Commission before that. She basically sat as an appeal judge into a decision she had already been involved with. Kath will of course be remembered for her time as a Radio Cumbria presenter. (Others include Richard Hammond, now a successful television personality, Richard Madely and Blue Peter presenter Helen Skelton). Kath was also Director of Broadcasting at Border Television and Secretary at BBC Scotland. There is no obvious record of actual involvement in television show production, rather than senior management. Quote:The BBC had accused the regulator of refusing to accept evidence that would overturn its judgment, and took issue with the fact Ofcom’s Kath Worrall, a former dog show judge, oversaw both the initial investigation and a subsequent appeal. RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 13-07-2012 01:49 (12-07-2012 09:18 )Tonywauk Wrote: Of course the re-classifcation of the so-called 'Babe' channels so that they fit within the pre-defined limits designated for shopping channels demonstrates a total lack of flexibility, an inability to consider different channels by different criteria and is total nonsense. Mind you the channels modus operandi of using the on-screen visuals as a teaser for the telephone service rather plays into the regulator's hands. Ofcom are actually required to "innovate" but are reactionary, slow to consider any change to the current broadcasting landscape apart from minor tinkering. Of course babe channels are totally different from shopping channels where people phone up to buy physical goods, and if Ofcom relaxed the rules the babe channels could get experiment with other forms of funding. Every attempt to do so is blocked. They are not allowed to have content because they are shopping channels. Phone interaction with onscreen presenters was deemed not real content. Premium rate texts were deemed an excuse for money raising, not participation. Messages cannot be read out on screen because that breaks PPP rules and Ofcom rushes to tell them. Ofcom claims it is implementing EU rules forcing a separation between "content" and "advertising". The government (aw, bless) will be conducting an investigation into EU rules that are over zealously implemented, gold plated and blamed on the EU. Lets make sure we have a say. |