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RE: Dr Who - Rake - 11-11-2018 08:19
Looks like the crude PC hectoring and guilt-tripping of the audience is turning people off...who would have thought? People tune in for escapist sci-fi fantasy entertainment and hopefully a good monster only to receive the message that they and their cultural history are monsters and monstrous respectively.
Let’s hope the good doctor returns to witness Watson and Crick and the elucidation of the double helix, the writing of the Magna Carta, Caxton inventing the printing press, the enlightenment, Stephenson inventing the Rocket, and the Few vanquishing Hitler’s Luftwaffe. I wont hold my breath.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/7666311/doctor-who-ratings-fall-pc-plots/
RE: Dr Who - skully - 11-11-2018 20:18
I enjoyed tonight's episode, I did think it was gonna be another Predator rip-off at first, but it turned out to be a remembrance episode.
Yes it could have been better, but I get what they were going for, at least it wasn't bad, imo.
RE: Dr Who - Doddle - 12-11-2018 08:06
I suppose superfluous aliens are preferable to 45 more minutes of solid politics on the BBC
RE: Dr Who - The Silent Majority - 13-11-2018 00:35
Ok. I get that it was a Remembrance theme, but I still can't help feeling a bit cheated again.
It was another potentially great episode that got 'castrated' half way through when the aliens turned out not to be the bad guys after all
RE: Dr Who - kelly1066 - 13-11-2018 01:15
As I believe the great Nan Taylor would say... "What a load of shit!"
Dr Who is supposed to be a sci-fi show, not a political statement (of gender neutrality?) for the BBC to shove down everyone's throat.
Even as a woman I find the idea of a guy giving birth a step too far. (last weeks' episode, i know)
RE: Dr Who - Carl-Gen X - 13-11-2018 11:16
After the first episode which did show some promise, I was prepared to be proved wrong when I said that this incarnation could prove to be the death knell for the show.
Sadly it looks to me that the show is dying on its arse..pandering to an audience of right on politically correct SJWs and feminazis.
Watched one of the classic stories on Dailymotion last night, Genesis of the Daleks from 1975 and half wished that I hadn’t because it just emphasised all the more strongly how far the show has fallen since those days.
RE: Dr Who - lovebabes56 - 13-11-2018 11:29
^SJWs?
RE: Dr Who - Carl-Gen X - 13-11-2018 11:39
(13-11-2018 11:29 )babelover48 Wrote: ^SJWs?
Social Justice Warriors.
RE: Dr Who - Doddle - 13-11-2018 14:47
(11-11-2018 08:19 )Rake Wrote: Looks like the crude PC hectoring and guilt-tripping of the audience is turning people off...who would have thought? People tune in for escapist sci-fi fantasy entertainment and hopefully a good monster only to receive the message that they and their cultural history are monsters and monstrous respectively.
Let’s hope the good doctor returns to witness Watson and Crick and the elucidation of the double helix, the writing of the Magna Carta, Caxton inventing the printing press, the enlightenment, Stephenson inventing the Rocket, and the Few vanquishing Hitler’s Luftwaffe. I wont hold my breath.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/7666311/doctor-who-ratings-fall-pc-plots/
Quote:The Woman Who Fell on Her Arse - 10.9m, 1st
The Ghost Monument - 9.0m, 4th
Rosa - 8.37m, 4th
Arachnids in the UK - 8.22m, 4th
The Tsuranga Conundrum - 7.76m, 6th
Positions-wise, this is easily the best run since the tail-end of Tennant's final season, which is also easily the best ratings run.
RE: Dr Who - southsidestu - 14-11-2018 22:17
Dr Who has always been political, Genesis of the Daleks was mentioned, Terry Nation based the Daleks on The Nazi's. The Kaleds in that series go around wearing SS style uniforms and making very emphatic salutes to each other. The character Nyder is styled on SS Chief Heinrich Himmler, he evens wears an Iron cross. Suits, salutes & insignia how much more shoved down your throat can you get? It's about as sutble as a MAGA hat on a Dalek. Though i hate when people call it a kids show i appreciate that it looks to include a young audience, if you are going to do that then it has to be a bit heavy handed in order to get through to them
Of course it should be political it's Sci-fi, politics is the very essence of sci-fi, if i was to try & sum up what science fiction is as a genre, i would say the analysis of the human condition. It's no coencidence that the ultimate sci-fi franchise in history, Star Trek, is perhaps the ultimate political show in history. You will not find a sci-fi show , movie or book anywhere that it not political/social/cultural. Even the most high octane action versions of the genre have these messages, The Terminator franchise is about AI & nuclear weapons. To say a sci-fi show should not be political is a compelete misunderstanding of the most integral & yet most basic element of the genre. It's like saying comedies should not be funny.
As for this episode i enjoyed it a lot more than the previous two as well as the pilot, trying to bring to life the human element of historical events has worked well in this series (this episode & Rosa), as well as having a writer that is not Chris Chibnall. I love that in these episodes they are stressing the importance of non interference, it has created two really powerfull moments in the series as the have had to either sit idly by or walk away as something bad is happening.