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RE: UK Riots - gazfc - 10-08-2011 00:38
Couple of reports from somebody I follow on twitter of a couple of shops looted in Norwich
RE: UK Riots - anchorman - 10-08-2011 00:53
(10-08-2011 00:38 )gazfc Wrote: Couple of reports from somebody I follow on twitter of a couple of shops looted in Norwich
Its gonna happen in every city now because lets be real every city has scumbags and if there getting away with its only gonna get worse.
RE: UK Riots - bigguy01 - 10-08-2011 00:55
the police new tatic from last night is using armoured jeeps to break up groups like they do when they use horses in the past. wheres judge dredd or robocop when you need them?
RE: UK Riots - SYBORG666 - 10-08-2011 02:16
I've just spent the last couple of hours with some of my neighbours holding off a mob of twats from trying to trash my neighbourhood. I'm just glad the coppers took control and removed them from the area when they did because my patience was starting to wear thin. Mind you, standing there in my old combat uniform from my days in the Army might of helped
or probably made me look like a nutter
RE: UK Riots - operoc25 - 10-08-2011 02:40
Something needs to be done about these gangs/mobs and fast. This is seriously getting out of control, the PM needs to get his finger out and do something about it. They need to teach the ba***rds a lesson. I cant believe that people would turn on their own country like this, its devistating watching the news and seeing all the damage that has been done.
I think that today Manchester City were prepared for this and not alot of damage was done. One of my family members lives in Manchester and they had found out about the riots in Salford from one of their collegues who lives in Salford, the police had said on the phone to them that they had no reports of any rioting going on in Salford, but there was.
I only hope that it doesn't start up here in Scotland.
RE: UK Riots - Sooky™ - 10-08-2011 04:29
(09-08-2011 21:42 )iamthatjack Wrote: This is why the initial Tottenham riots started, they were pissed off that the police killed a man in their community. Having a gun on him is wrong, but arrest him and take the gun, don't kill him.
The rest of these riots are a joke, twats who are causing mayhem for the sake of it
Wrong!
All of the riots are the result of mindless twats causing mayhem/looting etc through sheer opportunism. It has nothing to do with the Mark Duggan situation (regardless of the ins and outs of that situation). Even his family say it has nothing to do with it ffs.
The original peaceful protest was understandable. No riot is excusable and is never anything more than mindless destruction. No amount of retrospective attempts at justification will ever make it anything else.
(10-08-2011 00:32 )iamthatjack Wrote: Now that the riots have spread throughout the country, the police force's resources are gonna be very stretched, and these kunts are not gonna let up as they are looting left right and centre...its time for water cannons and the army to beat the living kunts out of these pricks.
So, let me get this straight - what you, without possesion of the full facts and details of the original shooting situation, deem heavy handed tactics by the police = bad/racist/endemic of the police force
Similarly heavy handed tactics being carried out by the army = totally fine?!?!?!?!?!?
Now I don't wanna say "contradictory stance"....................
*Don't try and nitpick over the difference between 'beating' someone and 'shooting' them - as both can result in the death of someone, irrespective of the original intent
Also, if you want to throw around the accusation of police racism then you might find this link interesting reading http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/08/mark-duggan-profile-tottenham-shooting
It's the countries leading black newspaper that states the gang connections etc thus creating the notion that he may have been a viable threat. Of course his family are going to say he was a good boy and wasn't involved in such things. He may well not have been. He equally may well have been involved in such things, and there are plenty of things to suggest this. But the fact is, other than those directly connected/involved, nobody knows and anybody unconnected getting involved in this is simply guilty of speculation and bandwagonism.
But the moment this situation stopped being a peaceful protest and became riots it stopped having anything to do with the shooting.
RE: UK Riots - lovebabes56 - 10-08-2011 05:09
This isn't going to do the national deficit any good!! I bet the rest of the world are laughing at us and at our police force as they handle
this, I bet any lawyers are rubbing their hands with glee, looking foward to seeing how many police officers careers they can f**k
up with suing them. That's the real reason the police can't be heavy handed with the'se twats bercause if they hit just one of them the PC brigade lawyers will sue them for every penny they've got,
so these twats can get free cash out of hard working officers, who are simply doing their jobs with their hands tied behind their backs.
I bet the real hard nosed officers who love a good scrap, are sitting beind desk dealing with all the red tape!!
Now all Mr Cameron can do is chair a second COBRA meeting to discuss it!! I'd loove to hear what is actually said at these meeting becauseas far as I'm concerned yesterday's meeting doesn't seem to have acheived very much except to tell the cops to be "good boys and don't hurt anyone, because we can't afford the compensation payouts!!"
Come on Mr Cameron, get get yr finger out, enough is f*****g enough are you going to wait before inncoent peoople are killed before you do somehing that does frighten the shit out of these c***s? I wonder just how many of them are asylum seekers who shouldn't be here in the first place?
RE: UK Riots - iamthatjack - 10-08-2011 06:51
(10-08-2011 04:29 )Sooky™ Wrote:(09-08-2011 21:42 )iamthatjack Wrote: This is why the initial Tottenham riots started, they were pissed off that the police killed a man in their community. Having a gun on him is wrong, but arrest him and take the gun, don't kill him.
The rest of these riots are a joke, twats who are causing mayhem for the sake of it
Wrong!
All of the riots are the result of mindless twats causing mayhem/looting etc through sheer opportunism. It has nothing to do with the Mark Duggan situation (regardless of the ins and outs of that situation). Even his family say it has nothing to do with it ffs.
The original peaceful protest was understandable. No riot is excusable and is never anything more than mindless destruction. No amount of retrospective attempts at justification will ever make it anything else.
(10-08-2011 00:32 )iamthatjack Wrote: Now that the riots have spread throughout the country, the police force's resources are gonna be very stretched, and these kunts are not gonna let up as they are looting left right and centre...its time for water cannons and the army to beat the living kunts out of these pricks.
So, let me get this straight - what you, without possesion of the full facts and details of the original shooting situation, deem heavy handed tactics by the police = bad/racist/endemic of the police force
Similarly heavy handed tactics being carried out by the army = totally fine?!?!?!?!?!?
Now I don't wanna say "contradictory stance"....................
*Don't try and nitpick over the difference between 'beating' someone and 'shooting' them - as both can result in the death of someone, irrespective of the original intent
Also, if you want to throw around the accusation of police racism then you might find this link interesting reading http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/08/mark-duggan-profile-tottenham-shooting
It's the countries leading black newspaper that states the gang connections etc thus creating the notion that he may have been a viable threat. Of course his family are going to say he was a good boy and wasn't involved in such things. He may well not have been. He equally may well have been involved in such things, and there are plenty of things to suggest this. But the fact is, other than those directly connected/involved, nobody knows and anybody unconnected getting involved in this is simply guilty of speculation and bandwagonism.
But the moment this situation stopped being a peaceful protest and became riots it stopped having anything to do with the shooting.
The peaceful protest that became a riot in Tottenham was because a policeman struck a 16 year old girl in the face. The rest of the riots had no cause/link and is opportunistic destruction.
- Killing a man who is sitting in a cab is heavy handed.
- Attacking rioters in order to stop them causing increased destruction to various areas of London and beyond is justifiable, since as you say, they are unrelated to the shooting.
There's anarchy on the streets, the police can't handle it...so other than Ghostbusters, who are you gonna call?
Its so easy for Caucasians to dismiss racism, you never experience it to the extent everyone else does, you can never understand
RE: UK Riots - Rammyrascal - 10-08-2011 08:04
(10-08-2011 02:40 )operoc25 Wrote: Something needs to be done about these gangs/mobs and fast. This is seriously getting out of control, the PM needs to get his finger out and do something about it. They need to teach the ba***rds a lesson. I cant believe that people would turn on their own country like this, its devistating watching the news and seeing all the damage that has been done.
I think that today Manchester City were prepared for this and not alot of damage was done. One of my family members lives in Manchester and they had found out about the riots in Salford from one of their collegues who lives in Salford, the police had said on the phone to them that they had no reports of any rioting going on in Salford, but there was.
I only hope that it doesn't start up here in Scotland.
i live in the manchester area and went through manchester city centre around 3pm and there was a substantial police presence then and was well clear of the city centre at home when it kicked off and the police for me clearly had their tactics right as whilst there was damage, it was not as bad as it could as been and this morning it seems everything is pretty much back to normal
overall last night was relatiively quiet compared to previous nights even with a gun being fired at a policeman in birmingham. hopefully the start of the riots fizzling out
RE: UK Riots - cosmonaut - 10-08-2011 12:16
(10-08-2011 08:04 )Rammyrascal Wrote: overall last night was relatiively quiet compared to previous nights
The head of the Manchester police doesn't agree with you, because he said the violence yesterday was extraordinary. In a bizarre development in London, it seems that Eltham was being patrolled and protected by Millwall supporters last night, who said they weren't allowing any looting on their patch. Millwall supporters the good guys!
