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RE: To see it all or not see it all...... - PersonaNonGrata - 10-01-2010 23:18
(10-01-2010 23:03 )Gamehead Wrote: Hold onto your knackers ladles and jellyspoons.....
[gazes into his Game addled brain and gleans infomation from the vapour of nuance]
I see something on the horizon... Something amazing.
Yes, it's better than a fat plumber rescuing a princess too.
Well, that's me told!
RE: To see it all or not see it all...... - Moderation Station - 10-01-2010 23:18
(10-01-2010 23:03 )Gamehead Wrote: Hold onto your knackers ladles and jellyspoons.....
[gazes into his Game addled brain and gleans infomation from the vapour of nuance]
I see something on the horizon... Something amazing.
Yes, it's better than a fat plumber rescuing a princess too.
Oh really Mr Crystal Ball... What have I got in my pockets then?
RE: To see it all or not see it all...... - rawr1 - 11-02-2010 14:42
(10-01-2010 23:18 )Moderation Station Wrote:(10-01-2010 23:03 )Gamehead Wrote: Yes, it's better than a fat plumber rescuing a princess too.
Oh really Mr Crystal Ball... What have I got in my pockets then?
A wad of 20's?
A half packet of Werther's Originals?
Do tell!
RE: To see it all or not see it all...... - coin - 11-02-2010 15:13
It was nice a few nights back when Jodie was on BSX, she fondled the Producers crotch over his jeans and soon after he put hand down her top, pulled out her right breast caressed the nipple and gave the whole breast a good fondle. More Please.
RE: To see it all or not see it all...... - Dan Volatile - 11-02-2010 20:30
(10-01-2010 23:18 )Moderation Station Wrote: What have I got in my pockets then?
Is that what you ask them at the interview? Seems like Jodie probably knows the answer.
RE: To see it all or not see it all...... - vostok 1 - 11-02-2010 21:18
(10-01-2010 16:28 )BigChuck Wrote:(10-01-2010 16:22 )BarrieBF Wrote: Sky don't wish to provide the babe channels with that facility anyhow, so as things stand they couldn't do it even if they wanted to.
really, i thought it was a money thing, as other channels have encryption
it simply costs them more money to make the channel pin protected, meaning they would have to charge a subscription fee, this wouldn't be financially viable, as the channels who did it have it stopped.
Indeed. It is not financially viable.
Reason here:
(07-02-2010 22:59 )DanVox Wrote: Setting up mandatory free-to-view PIN encryption costs £15,000 for setup (one off) and £25,000 each year, so it would cost a broadcaster £40,000 in their first year.
A pay per view or subscription service costs a £50,000 one-off fee to set up, and £15,000 a year plus an amount per subscriber that depends on the monthly or PPV cost. See Sky Consultation Response and Sky Price List for details. Seems a channel costing £10 a month pays Sky £1.06 per subscriber (Annex 3: 90p+12p+4p). A PPV channel costing £5.99 pays Sky 55p (Annex 4: 47p+6p+2p).
RE: To see it all or not see it all...... - StanTheMan - 11-02-2010 21:22
(10-01-2010 13:53 )coin Wrote: For the life of me I cannot understand why these channels aren't encrypted and only accessible with the Pin Number that is used to access all other adult paid stuff, I am not advocating payment to access these channels, just accessible by entering your pin.
How many times does it need saying that this is a non-starter? I don't know how everyone else surfs the babe channels, but I flick up and down them at quite an alarming rate. I'm buggered if I'm going to enter my PIN every time I switch a channel. We're talking 20+ PIN inputs every time you surf through them.
RE: To see it all or not see it all...... - BigBen - 12-02-2010 00:09
Well I for one would love to see some minge!!
Incidentally I know a lot of girls call themselves models but (personal opinion) if fingers touch pussy - porn! That's why your newsagent has a top shelf and Nuts and Loaded aren't on it. And there are a lot of girls who've started as models and are probably still referred to as models but I've seen the girl/girl dildo videos. Just because there's no cock it's still porn.
Quite a few like to pretend they've never done it either.
RE: To see it all or not see it all...... - DanVox - 12-02-2010 01:29
(11-02-2010 21:22 )StanTheMan Wrote:(10-01-2010 13:53 )coin Wrote: For the life of me I cannot understand why these channels aren't encrypted and only accessible with the Pin Number that is used to access all other adult paid stuff, I am not advocating payment to access these channels, just accessible by entering your pin.
How many times does it need saying that this is a non-starter? I don't know how everyone else surfs the babe channels, but I flick up and down them at quite an alarming rate. I'm buggered if I'm going to enter my PIN every time I switch a channel. We're talking 20+ PIN inputs every time you surf through them.
As The Man says, it's a non starter, like a student before noon.
As long as Sky doesn't play ball.
I posted Sky costs for PIN control above, but a few days later had an epiphany moment (bear with me, I'll stop the poncey crap now). There are several ways that Sky could encourage good practice and help improve child protection AT ALMOST NO COST TO THEM. It's no use having child locks if they are so awkward that parents don't use them.
First, Sky could PIN protect all channels in the adult EPG at ZERO COST. They don't have to store subscriber info on their computers and transmit authorisation codes every few minutes, becuase the code and lock are stored on the viewers box. Zero cost to Sky.
Their £40,000 year 1 fee for settting this up is simply a way of raking money off "special" channels.
Second, as The Man says, having to enter loads of PINS is a killer, stopping surfing in its tracks. I dont even like the 4 second delay before a channel appears, and thats without PIN protection. BUT Sky could introduce a group PIN. Enter it once and ALL the FTA adult channels are unlocked for the night. "But what if the missus or kids try the channels the next day?" you say. Simples. The PIN lock resets every 5am. This would cost Sky less than £10k for a firmware developer and they can transmit the update to Skyboxes at low cost.
Trouble is Sky want it both ways. Loads of early Sky subscribers would not have signed up if Astra hadn't had easily obtained porn and Sky must have been aware of it. (We don't sell porn, but if you buy our package you'd be amazed how easy it is to go to another channel). These days Sky has more soft-core channels than Freeview, Virgin and BT. It has to be the deciding factor for thousands of male buyers. Even if they don't make a fortune directly from the satellite fees, anything that keeps viewers signed up has to be good news at Wombat Towers. But at the same time they won't put proper workable controls on or encourage strong channels so we get just enough to live in hope and continue paying £30 a month. Trouble is adult channel fans don't have a hand free to write in and complain.