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RE: New e-petition rules for Downing Street Website - schmoo - 29-07-2011 16:53
I'll be another too - i'll "sign".
RE: New e-petition rules for Downing Street Website - Renfrew169 - 29-07-2011 21:47
I'll have a go at formulating a wording inthe next couple of days and bring it back for approval. Thanks for the encouragement guys
RE: New e-petition rules for Downing Street Website - eccles - 29-07-2011 22:25
(29-07-2011 02:32 )arron88 Wrote:(29-07-2011 00:24 )Renfrew169 Wrote: As far as I can see, any e-petition on the Downing Street website which receives more than 100.000 signatures might result in the subject being debated in Parliament.
Good idea but can't see it getting more than 500 signatures.
500? The online petition on the "Freedom" website struggled to get 100.
It wont get much support unless the petition covers smoking areas in pubs. Perhaps thats it. Call for deregulating pub back rooms.
RE: New e-petition rules for Downing Street Website - jimmyt73 - 29-07-2011 23:10
hi guys i agree it would be a good idea to petition the govt maybe if people knew the true cost of ofcom and the investigations it carries out and the fact that the money could be diverted into health or education budgets instead of being used for lengthy consultations the moment some babe accidently shows to much at 3.23 in the morning
RE: New e-petition rules for Downing Street Website - arron88 - 29-07-2011 23:30
(29-07-2011 23:10 )jimmyt73 Wrote: hi guys i agree it would be a good idea to petition the govt maybe if people knew the true cost of ofcom and the investigations it carries out and the fact that the money could be diverted into health or education budgets
what is the true cost of ofcom - can you put a number on it?
RE: New e-petition rules for Downing Street Website - Renfrew169 - 30-07-2011 04:14
We will need to be careful to avoid the petition containing the seeds of it's own destruction by rehearsing the debate within it.
It's true that it may be necessary to be prepared to enter into debate as the numbers of signatories rise, and I accept that this may bomb, but I think the wording of the petition itself should be concise and specific.
It should state that the signatories do not accept that mature adults need to be regulated in respect of the viewing of a fully naked adult on a programme specifically described as containing sexually oriented content, broadcast after the 9pm watershed. This content is not pornography. Pornography should be separately defined.
We also contend that minors can be excluded from viewing this content by the exercise of the use of a four digit pin no. This system is considered sufficiently robust to protect electronic financial transactions through the generally available ATM network and therefore must be more than adequate for this purpose.
I think something like the above might be the type of content to use inthe hope that it may attract wider support and be focused on the one issue.
RE: New e-petition rules for Downing Street Website - Roquentin - 30-07-2011 14:51
err, I wouldnt want a four digit pin number, as I think it would dramatically hurt the channel's revenues far more than the current drop in content levels. I think they are very dependant long term on new channel surfers as the shop window for their business. I cant be sure of this but it sounds very likely to me.
Unless you meant the kind of controls that parents can exercise over their own systems at home (perhaps reword it as such). But please no centralised opt in system.
I dont mean to deflect this though, keep thinking of a good form of words for an interesting public webpoll.
RE: New e-petition rules for Downing Street Website - Renfrew169 - 30-07-2011 22:49
(30-07-2011 14:51 )Roquentin Wrote: err, I wouldnt want a four digit pin number, as I think it would dramatically hurt the channel's revenues far more than the current drop in content levels. I think they are very dependant long term on new channel surfers as the shop window for their business. I cant be sure of this but it sounds very likely to me.
Unless you meant the kind of controls that parents can exercise over their own systems at home (perhaps reword it as such). But please no centralised opt in system.
I dont mean to deflect this though, keep thinking of a good form of words for an interesting public webpoll.
Sorry, yes I didn't make it clear, the PIN no was just the parental control one - I fully agree that an opt in system is not the way to go - I'm still working on the wording.
RE: New e-petition rules for Downing Street Website - Winston Wolfe - 31-07-2011 10:05
As eccles said, this has been tried before and it didn't work.
If you're going to organise a campaign like this, I would recommend that you direct it to all the companies involved with the channels. They produce the content and are ultimately responsible for production values.
The channels need many different ways to make money with the technology at their disposal. With that in mind, any approach would need to be from this kind of perspective.
Capitalism is the main factor in the equation - not OFCOM. Yes, OFCOM's rules are like a bad joke - but there are loopholes and ways around some of these rules (some of which have already been applied).
I've noticed there are some unrealistic expectations on this forum, in terms of wanting quality adult entertainment - without paying for it. You may find it for free on the Internet, which is all well and good - but it's very difficult to get on TV without the need for encrypted pay-per-view.
Whenever I'm involved in a project, I always ask the same questions... Where is the gap in the marketplace? How will this make enough money? What are the positives and negatives about the competition? This is how it works and how you find solutions. A balance between the creative side and the money side.
So, what content are you not satisfied with on free-to-air/pay-per-view? How do you suggest they improve things? How will any changes increase revenue?
If the final draft is sensible, I'll either consider it for my project or forward it to the right people...
RE: New e-petition rules for Downing Street Website - gazfc - 31-07-2011 10:20
If you do this you need to involve as many social network sites as possible, that way the girls themselves cam post the link without much hassle, that way it'll reach a hell of alot more people than say this forum can reach