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RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - brummie - 08-04-2013 17:41
As someone who endured the ravages of Thatchers government my memories of the time are of the utter contempt she had for ordinary working class people,her laying waste to whole communities in the north and midlands sending thousands into poverty and whole communities relying on soup kitchens, of her using the police to fight her political battles with the miners, sending hundreds to their deaths over a couple of rocks in the South atlantic to save her own political skin back home, of her removing rights workers had fought for for decades to a decent wage and conditions.She sold off lifes basic neccessities like gas,electric & water to allow the profiteers in to hike up prices which we are still paying for now and she made greed and selfishness into virtues where making ever greater profits at any price started bankers and business men down the road to where we are now.
The Thatchers Britain I remember is the rich getting richer and the poor, well she couldn't give a shit about them they were left on their own, and don't even get me started on the poll tax.
My sympathies lie with the victims of her evil policies and I while I wouldn't normally condone celebrating death I'm prepared to make an exception in her case and will probably down a drink or three tonight.
I imagine her sat in hell right now trying to figure out the most profitable way to privatise the furnaces!
RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - SOCATOA - 08-04-2013 17:45
BBC have Jonathon Aitken and David Mellor being interviewed about Thatcher. Two pillars of society, NOT. These guy's are a perfect example of what was wrong with this country in her "Golden Years"
RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - Robot Devil - 08-04-2013 17:53
Disgusting, hateful woman. Her 'crush the poor peons' attitude destroyed tens of thousands of families in Britain. And now with the silver spoon brigade- Cameron, Osborne, Duncan-Smith, & 'Bo-Jo' running the country, struggling families are again being violated shamefully.
RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - Doddle - 08-04-2013 18:05
I appreciate why possibly as many people think she was marvellous, as think she was horrendous.
I think many of her key tenets were woefully misguided (eg "leave it to the market to decide"). She wouldn't tell Reagan when he was wrong (which was a lot).
Blair was her inheritor, and now we have three party leaders in his graven image.
RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - Stillroom Rock - 08-04-2013 18:34
My sympathies are with those of the Mining communities which she destroyed
RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - mellover - 08-04-2013 20:41
(08-04-2013 16:24 )LatexRyan Wrote: I may not have been around
Thought so.
RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - mellover - 08-04-2013 20:50
(08-04-2013 18:34 )Stillroom Rock Wrote: My sympathies are with those of the Mining communities which she destroyed
Funny, I live in Derbyshire not a hop skip and a jump away from those communities she 'destroyed'. Look alright to me, till a camera is shoved in their faces.
Coal is finite and lot of the mines where exhausted, the ones that weren't being kept open at great cost.
Anybody see the the 60's/70's programme, the rag trade? A character blowing a whistle shouting 'EVERYBODY OUT' every 5 minutes?. That was the unions for you, that's why there was constant power cuts in the seventies, why my mum had to find £6 for a bag of potatoes (they're only £4.50 now) to feed us kids, why the rubbish was piled up in the streets and the dead went unburied.
Look up 'winter of discontent' young people. Whoever was born since 1981 simply does not know what it was like. No, not having the latest iphone or not becoming a celeb for nothing or getting called a mild name in the play ground is not life threatening hardship.
RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - mellover - 08-04-2013 20:59
(08-04-2013 17:41 )brummie Wrote: and whole communities relying on soup kitchens
Simply not true, I am from those areas.
Quote:sending hundreds to their deaths over a couple of rocks in the South atlantic to save her own political skin back homeThe Argentinians invaded a British souvreign island and a protectorate, who recently voted to stay part of Britian 30 years on.
Quote:of her removing rights workers had fought for for decades to a decent wage and conditions.Wages people get now for the hours of work they do would be a pipe dream before Thatcher.
Just the same old waffle that was always thrown against her.
RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - Scottishbloke - 08-04-2013 21:04
Just to add too I find it in extremely bad taste that anybody could rejoice in the death of the former Prime Minister. As a Scotsman I certainly didn't hold any affection for her but neither would I have wished bad health on her either.
Margaret Thatcher famously claimed to have only needed 4 hours sleep and well that never looks good in the long term so it came to no surprise to me to see that she eventually lost all her marbles.
I also make no secret of the fact that she also probably got the femist vote too which put her into power. However unless I have true hatred for anybody then I will always be respectful of their demise.
What I will say about the Iron Lady was that whether her decisions turned out to be right or wrong such as the controversial Falklands war of 1982 I cannot fault her for her grit and determination.
She was bloody minded but she was also human and as fellow humans we should all be respectful right now. She was a character and a one off and should be left now to rest in peace. I'll never speak ill of the dead unless they happen to have a name such as Adolf Hitler.
RE: Margaret Thatcher Dead - brummie - 08-04-2013 21:09
I most certainly was around at the time and her provocation of a miners dispute had nothing to do with 'exhausted' mines it was all about breaking what was at the time one of the most powerfull unions, She destroyed the manufacturing base of this country and ushered in an era of rampant greed where profit was worshipped as a god and it mattered not who paid the price, the working class wre after all only cannon fodder.