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RE: Catalonia independence vote - lovebabes56 - 30-10-2017 08:08
given the history in Spain over this issue didn't Catalans play a significant part in the Spanish Civil War in '36? Mind you, when you think about the Basque separatists that were running around Spain in the 70's & 80's I wonder how long it would be before they rear their head again if Madrid tries to impose it's will on Catalans again.
RE: Catalonia independence vote - Charlemagne - 31-10-2017 11:57
The Catalon leader has done a runner to Belgium. He's scared of being prosecuted for rebellion.
RE: Catalonia independence vote - William H Bonney - 31-10-2017 13:51
(29-10-2017 15:55 )Nadam Wrote: Not convinced another league would want them either. Take France for example. There's no love lost between Barça and PSG and other clubs aren't going to vote in another super power which will make it less likely that Marseille, Monaco etc can get in the Champions League.
Your reasoning is flawed. At the moment France has only 2 guaranteed places in the Champions League, compared to 4 for Spain, England, Italy and Germany. With the coefficient points that Barcelona would bring in, France could expect to move up the rankings and replace one of the others and have the 4 places rather than 2. So Barcelona playing in the French league would likely give Marseille and Monaco more chance of playing in the Champions League, not less as you stated.
This is probably academic anyway, as clubs from Andorra (a foreign country) are allowed to play in La Liga. In the event of Catalan independence, the rules would just need to be amended to allow clubs from Catalonia to play in La Liga too.
RE: Catalonia independence vote - Nadam - 04-11-2017 06:54
(31-10-2017 13:51 )William H Bonney Wrote:(29-10-2017 15:55 )Nadam Wrote: Not convinced another league would want them either. Take France for example. There's no love lost between Barça and PSG and other clubs aren't going to vote in another super power which will make it less likely that Marseille, Monaco etc can get in the Champions League.
Your reasoning is flawed. At the moment France has only 2 guaranteed places in the Champions League, compared to 4 for Spain, England, Italy and Germany. With the coefficient points that Barcelona would bring in, France could expect to move up the rankings and replace one of the others and have the 4 places rather than 2. So Barcelona playing in the French league would likely give Marseille and Monaco more chance of playing in the Champions League, not less as you stated.
This is probably academic anyway, as clubs from Andorra (a foreign country) are allowed to play in La Liga. In the event of Catalan independence, the rules would just need to be amended to allow clubs from Catalonia to play in La Liga too.
I think the reasoning behind your assertion that the other clubs would want another mega rich super club which receives funding from the Middle East is flawed but there you go.
RE: Catalonia independence vote - lovebabes56 - 04-11-2017 07:49
(31-10-2017 11:57 )Charlemagne Wrote: The Catalon leader has done a runner to Belgium. He's scared of being prosecuted for rebellion.
Spanish Government have issued a warrant for his arrest - wonder if he'll take the Assange approach? Which reminds me - is Assange still in the Ecuador Embassy?
RE: Catalonia independence vote - HannahsPet - 04-11-2017 07:53
its the ecudorian embassy and i think he still is
RE: Catalonia independence vote - lovebabes56 - 04-11-2017 07:54
Must have some beard on him by now if he hasn't shaved...
RE: Catalonia independence vote - HannahsPet - 04-11-2017 08:02
Seriously have i just heard Pro Spanish Supporters singing Viva Espana
RE: Catalonia independence vote - lovebabes56 - 04-11-2017 08:06
what's on the Warrant charge sheet I beg to ask? If rebellion (which is possibly as big a charge as treason) is the charge, then that would surely carry the death penalty wouldn't it?
RE: Catalonia independence vote - lovebabes56 - 04-11-2017 08:11
(04-11-2017 08:02 )HannahsPet Wrote: Seriously have i just heard Pro Spanish Supporters singing Viva Espana
is that the majority or the minority?