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RE: England Tour of South Africa 19/20 - aaron - 28-12-2019 13:19

I think Graham Thorpe is the batting coach.

South Africa made 272 in their 2nd innings, leaving England an unlikely 376 to win.


RE: England Tour of South Africa 19/20 - Cooper_temple - 28-12-2019 13:19

Ahh yeah, he been the coach for a while, time for a change, maybe need to get a younger more modern coach, cricket has changed so much in the last 10 years.


RE: England Tour of South Africa 19/20 - Charlemagne - 28-12-2019 19:01

The England openers have rallied and reach 121-1 at stumps.

England need another 255 to win. Should be interesting tomorrow


RE: England Tour of South Africa 19/20 - lovebabes56 - 28-12-2019 22:52

Going back to the Jofra Archer incident this how it would have been interpreted under Law 41.7 in 2017 : -
(Bowling of dangerous and unfair non-pitching deliveries) imposed penalties on a bowler who bowls a full toss over the batsman’s waist that were stricter than those imposed under the previous Code of Laws.
The tightened areas were as follows:
A ball of any speed over waist height was deemed to be a No ball and dangerous. Under the 2000 Code, slow deliveries could be up to shoulder height.
In the 2000 Code, two warnings used to be given to the bowler, with a third infringement seeing him/her removed from the attack. In the 2017 Code, only one warning is given, so a bowler will be suspended for two full tosses over waist height at any speed.

And this is the amended law as of April 2019 : -
41.7 Bowling of dangerous and unfair non-pitching deliveries
41.7.1 Any delivery, which passes or would have passed, without pitching, above waist height of the striker standing upright at the popping crease, is unfair. Whenever such a delivery is bowled, the umpire shall call and signal No ball.
41 .7. 2 The bowling of a delivery as defined in 41.7.1 is also dangerous if the bowler’s end umpire considers that there is a risk of injury to the striker.
In making that judgement the umpire shall:
disregard any protective equipment worn by the striker
be mindful of:
the speed, height and direction of the delivery
the skill of the striker
the repeated nature of such deliveries.
41.7. 3 If the umpire considers a non-pitching delivery, or a series of non-pitching deliveries, to be dangerous under 41.7.2, when the ball is dead, the umpire shall repeat the No ball signal to the scorers and then caution the bowler, indicating that this is a first and final warning. The umpire shall also inform the other umpire, the captain of the fielding side and the batsmen of what has occurred. This caution shall apply to that bowler throughout the innings.
41 .7. 4 Should there be any further dangerous such delivery by the same bowler in that innings, the umpire shall
call and signal No ball
when the ball is dead, direct the captain of the fielding side to suspend the bowler immediately from bowling
inform the other umpire for the reason for this action.
The bowler thus suspended shall not be allowed to bowl again in that innings.
If applicable, the over shall be completed by another bowler, who shall neither have bowled any part of the previous over, nor be allowed to bowl any part of the next over.
Additionally, the umpire shall;
report the occurrence to the batsmen and, as soon as practicable, to the captain of the batting side.
The umpires together shall report the occurrence as soon as possible after the match to the Executive of the offending side and to any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action
as is considered appropriate against the captain, any other individuals concerned and, if appropriate, the team.
41.7. 5 The warning and action sequences in 41.7.3 and 41.7.4 are independent of those in 41.6.
41.7. 6 If the umpire considers that a bowler deliberately bowled a non-pitching delivery, deemed to be unfair as defined in 41.7.1, then the caution and warning in 41.7.3 shall be dispensed with. The umpire shall;
immediately call and signal No ball.
when the ball is dead, direct the captain of the fielding side to suspend the bowler immediately from bowling and inform the other umpire for the reason for this action.
The bowler thus suspended shall not be allowed to bowl again in that innings.
If applicable, the over shall be completed by another bowler, who shall neither have bowled any part of the previous over, nor be allowed to bowl any part of the next over.
report the occurrence to the batsmen and, as soon as practicable, to the captain of the batting side.
The umpires together shall report the occurrence as soon as possible after the match to the Executive of the offending side and to any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action
as is considered appropriate against the captain, any other individuals concerned and, if appropriate, the team

Hope this explains everything with regards to the incident that occurred.

Depending how you look at it, maybe Philander had a point when he said Archer should have been removed from the attack, but at the time he (Jofra) was only called for one no ball by the square leg umpire and the umpire standing did not call the second one a no ball.


RE: England Tour of South Africa 19/20 - Charlemagne - 29-12-2019 13:49

Bad batting yet again.. bladewave They have managed to lose by 107 runs.


RE: England Tour of South Africa 19/20 - Charlemagne - 03-01-2020 13:16

England won't be allowed to play football during their training sessions after Burns injured himself yesterday.
The 2nd test is underway from Cape Town, currently England are 110-3


RE: England Tour of South Africa 19/20 - William H Bonney - 03-01-2020 13:42

England's batting seems to be wobbling a little as is usual in test matches. The 4th wicket has fallen with the score at 127.

There were 3 changes for this match, fit-again Ollie Pope replaced Jonny Bairstow, Zak Crawley replaced the injured Rory Burns as opener and spinner Dom Bess came in to the side with Jofra Archer missing out with injury.


RE: England Tour of South Africa 19/20 - Charlemagne - 03-01-2020 16:25

Stuart Broad's batting is getting worse. He was out again for 0.
The last time he was out was embarrasing, in this match it was humiliating Sad

England currently on 235-9.


RE: England Tour of South Africa 19/20 - Charlemagne - 03-01-2020 16:54

261 all out and then it was found that Rabada had bowled a no ball.

Pope and Anderson are still going.


RE: England Tour of South Africa 19/20 - straw man - 03-01-2020 18:04

After winning the toss on what looked like a decent pitch, England will be disappointed after closing the 1st day on 262/9.