(10-08-2011 12:08 )Hotstuff_BABESHOWS Wrote:  Breaking News:
David Cameron approves water cannon
that will teach them

(10-08-2011 12:17 )Stillroom Rock Wrote:  Not before time

(10-08-2011 12:39 )SOCATOA Wrote:  Sad,sad sights on TV, years of neglect and shit leaders have made this situation. Only answer is to hit the fukkers hard, castration comes to mind.

(10-08-2011 06:51 )iamthatjack Wrote:  The peaceful protest that became a riot in Tottenham was because a policeman struck a 16 year old girl in the face. The rest of the riots had no cause/link and is opportunistic destruction.

- Killing a man who is sitting in a cab is heavy handed.
- Attacking rioters in order to stop them causing increased destruction to various areas of London and beyond is justifiable, since as you say, they are unrelated to the shooting.

There's anarchy on the streets, the police can't handle it...so other than Ghostbusters, who are you gonna call?

Its so easy for Caucasians to dismiss racism, you never experience it to the extent everyone else does, you can never understand

The Tottenham riot began as a result of the rumour that a 16 year old girl had been attacked by police. You condemn one side based on conjecture, yet condone another using the very same method

- Killing a man "sitting in a cab" is not neccessarily as clear cut as it sounds. There is a difference between setting out to kill someone and it being an unfortunate result of an unintentional act. What doesn't help is people automatically jumping on the police witch-hunt bandwagon in order to justify unlawfulness, violence and destruction. This is inciteful behaviour and the reason why we end up in situations like this in the first place.
- ALL THE RIOTS ARE UNJUSTIFIABLE!!!! A riot is a riot - no matter which way you want to justify specific ones. NONE of them are related to the shooting or anything else. Have you not been paying attention for the last year 6 months or so? Every time there is any kind of protest etc in London at the moment it results in riots. Why? Because there are always people who will use these situations for their own means and are in no way sympathetic or interested in what the original protest was about.

It's so easy to throw the racism card around as it keeps everything in a neat little box that people can feel vindicated in cause they're treated so badly, nobody else understands. When, in reality, what is just as bad as racism is the perpetuation of racism as a means to justify a victimisation mindset so as to justify other actions. Racism is not just about skin colour. Scots, Welsh, Irish, French, Germans, Americans, Jews (the list goes on). These people (who are often predominantly caucasian) all are subject to racial/xenophobic feelings etc by English people (not all, I hasten to add). These groups of people are often caucasian. So to claim that caucasian people cannot understand racism is ignorant. Racism cannot be tolerated, but nor is everything race related. It is not race related just because black people, or anyone with colour, are involved. To suggest it is race related purely on the grounds of a black person having been at the heart of the matter is little more than rabble rousing - and that will cause a great deal more problems.

These are not race related riots - hence there have been little attacks on people. It is all simply to do with opportunistic looting and an attempt by groups of people to have what they class as fun with little to no regard for anything else. There is no meaning or agenda behind it. There never was - in Tottenham or elsewhere.

(10-08-2011 12:17 )Stillroom Rock Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 12:08 )Hotstuff_BABESHOWS Wrote:  Breaking News:
David Cameron approves water cannon
that will teach them

Not before time

(10-08-2011 15:00 )rickhardo Wrote:  The thing that saddens me most is that these dicks will soon be (or are already) breeding and producing the next generation of little vermin with no respect for anything or anybody so that in 15 or 20 years we'll have more dicks to deal with.