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RE: Ofcom Discussion - dan g 27 - 11-10-2012 18:59
(11-10-2012 17:28 )elroyticklestab Wrote: Somewhere in Ofcom there is a Harriet Harman wannabee who sees the 900 channels as disgusting. Last night's shows were pathetically tame so it is obviously the producers who are running scared of Ofcom as many of the models do hardcore, open leg or at least tasteful nude.
Now if they all got together and said "right lads, 11pm Friday 12th Oct, best models out and all bollock naked, across every channel and screw Ofcom, they can't sanction all of us"....
Why couldn't Ofcom sanction all the channels?
RE: Ofcom Discussion - mrmann - 11-10-2012 20:20
(11-10-2012 18:59 )dan g 27 Wrote:(11-10-2012 17:28 )elroyticklestab Wrote: Somewhere in Ofcom there is a Harriet Harman wannabee who sees the 900 channels as disgusting. Last night's shows were pathetically tame so it is obviously the producers who are running scared of Ofcom as many of the models do hardcore, open leg or at least tasteful nude.
Now if they all got together and said "right lads, 11pm Friday 12th Oct, best models out and all bollock naked, across every channel and screw Ofcom, they can't sanction all of us"....
Why couldn't Ofcom sanction all the channels?
They could, but it would take a long time, and it's not like they are going to get a producer from each channel in court at the same exact time and day.
Also, if Ofcom was preoccupied with the babe channels for too long, then many of the complaints toward non adult channels would go unnoticed, and Ofcom would have a lot of angry people to deal with.
I can imagine many new complaints popping up regarding race, sexism, abortion, shaming of people, privacy invasion, etc, but with Ofcom too busy trying to fine the babe channels for silly reasons, they would be neglecting the concerns of everyone else, and it would make them look very unprofessional and petty.
This would show how focused Ofcom is on something that is so ridiculous, that I suspect the complainers of non adult channels would be up in arms, and would have an attitude of "Who the hell cares what the babe channels show!!!!!" "The non adult channels show much more", "There's only nudity after the watershed on adult channels, and these channels can be blocked as well, so why in the hell isn't Ofcom dealing with IMPORTANT issues for once????"
RE: Ofcom Discussion - dan g 27 - 11-10-2012 20:41
Quote:They could, but it would take a long time, and it's not like they are going to get a producer from each channel in court at the same exact time and day.
They wouldn't need to.
Quote:Also, if Ofcom was preoccupied with the babe channels for too long, then many of the complaints toward non adult channels would go unnoticed, and Ofcom would have a lot of angry people to deal with.
I can imagine many new complaints popping up regarding race, sexism, abortion, shaming of people, privacy invasion, etc, but with Ofcom too busy trying to fine the babe channels for silly reasons, they would be neglecting the concerns of everyone else, and it would make them look very unprofessional and petty.
Ofcom for me is the type of organisation (is that the word I was looking for) that has many people within its organisation to deal with various complaints. I doubt when there is a complaint about the channels, then Ofcom solely concentrate on that complaint and just discard the other complaints they have on their table.
As the previous poster said he suggested the models should fuck the rules and just all go bollock naked. That won't work in my opinion. A person or a few people will must likely complain, as people are so easily offended these days. Ofcom would sort out each channel one by one and then deliever their punishment to the channels one by one such as giving them a huge fine.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - mrmann - 11-10-2012 21:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaZaTlcbYxw
If all of the channels did this, then none of them would be likely to grass each other up, so that would be helpful, considering most of the complaints are likely from rival channels.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - mellover - 11-10-2012 21:23
I do hope they where watching tvx, I think somoene forgot to press the off air button till someone realised.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 12-10-2012 01:47
(11-10-2012 21:08 )mrmann Wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaZaTlcbYxw
If all of the channels did this, then none of them would be likely to grass each other up, so that would be helpful, considering most of the complaints are likely from rival channels.
I was just thinking exactly the same. Reality is Ofcom employs hundreds of staff and could draft a few in from other departments if needed. They probably wouldnt take mass definance lying down but would decide to set examples. Lets not kid ourselves, Ofcom would not shed a tear if the entire adult sector packed up.
The lastest Broadcast Bulletin lists complaints "Assessed, Not Investigated" about no fewer than 24 separate occasions during the Paralympics, 1 about TV3 Sweden, 8 against the Sikh Channel, 2 against Studio 66 as we have to call it now* (3 and 4 Sept) and 1 against Television X (freeview?).
Investigations are ongoing into The Sikh Channel (3 dates) and Studio 66 (13 Sept).
A cynic might wonder if the same person forced themselves to watch Studio 66 on at least 3 different nights, so terrible was their outrage.
I would say that recently the Broadcast Bulletins have seemed much shorter with fewer investigations than before, Ofcom might be more selective, but that does not change the bottom line that they can wield the axe any time they like.
Complaints
Report covers complaints received between: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012 to Monday, 8 October, 2012
EastEnders BBC 1 Friday, 5 October, 2012 : 20
Sky News Sky News Wednesday, 3 October, 2012 : 14
Sky News Sky News Friday, 5 October, 2012 : 289
The X Factor Show ITV1 London Sunday, 7 October, 2012 : 12
The X Factor Show ITV1 London Sunday, 7 October, 2012 : 1,199
RE: BabestationX - Chat & Discussion - eccles - 12-10-2012 02:09
(09-10-2012 22:44 )Grawth Wrote: On the subject of erections - in recent times on the Playboy / Adult Channel and TVX channels erections can be seen all over the place. Quite often you can even see them being wanked by the female performer. And it's not just a fleeting glimpse either - in the newer content it's clearly deliberately included for a fair length of time.
I have no idea whether the rules have changed, or the interpretation used by the channels has changed, or what, but it never used to be allowed and now it seems to be.
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Farce
If pushed Ofcom would probably say the rules have not changed and hand out punishments. A few years ago they found against one of the big operators - Playboy? - for a repeat of an old show that had been on air many many times. They said just because something had been repeatedly broadcast that did not make it OK. Thats repeatedly broadcast over several years without a single complaint. They say the only thing that guarantees content is OK is getting let off an actual investigation.
What I suspect is that Ofcom feel they have to clamp down on free to air channels because those are very visible, but are happy for a quiet life when it comes to encrypted shows provided noone is too blatant. Few antiporn campaigners are going to take out a years subscription to XXXAnal just to make a point. Also there are more small free to air operators that competitors want to keep in line. Occasionally there is probably an informal check up, and sometimes this will result in a hint that a channel is pushing their luck. They revise their guidelines and stop including oral/hand shandys in new content, but leave the old stuff alone because editing costs money. A while later someone starts pushing boundaries again.
[edit] Sadly channels nerves dont extend to showing old Lolly, SXTV and SportXXX encrypted live shows uncut.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - MARCCE - 12-10-2012 11:54
Interesting debate about banning Page 3 on This Morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=048E2obOCMM
Same old arguments about the children etc. Quite ironic that Laura Bates hopes we're bringing our daughters up to be anything they want to be........but not a page 3 model obviously!
And of course the likes of Katie Price, Linda Lusardi, Melinda Messenger etc went on to "respectable" mainstream careers off the back of page 3.
But the really sad thing about this, apart from the appalling Harriet Harman, is that a programme which has reviewed sex toys, sexual positions and oap sex lives in fear of accidentally showing the page 3 girl when they're doing newspaper reviews because they could get into serious trouble.
I actually feel quite embarrassed for Ofcom and their contradictory attitudes.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - jonnyalpha - 12-10-2012 16:38
OFCOM is a antiquated and Draconic organisation run by power mad hypocrites who tell us what we can see but in their own lives are more perverted than any of us. As long as it makes the government money why should it change, its all about revenue, back in the day it was video nasties now its babechannels.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 13-10-2012 00:16
(12-10-2012 11:54 )MARCCE Wrote: Interesting debate about banning Page 3 on This Morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=048E2obOCMM
Same old arguments about the children etc. Quite ironic that Laura Bates hopes we're bringing our daughters up to be anything they want to be........but not a page 3 model obviously!
The other thing is that this is supposed to be a free country where parents decide what is right and wrong for their children, not the State, except in extreme cases. If Mum and Dad decide to read The Sun at the breakfast table in front of little Tarquin and Sophie and leave it lying around the house for them to look at, meddling Stalinist MPs should butt out.