(11-07-2016 19:04 )Matt77 Wrote:  Please for the love of god wackawoo can you ease up on these semi-literate and poorly argued posts on the EU. .....

Quote:Any chance we can now see some realistic concrete proposals as to how Britain is going to function

(11-07-2016 20:50 )brummie Wrote:  Biggest parasite of all was of course freaky Farage. Remember how concerned he was about the plight of UK fishermen? But as a member of the fisheries committee he turned up for 1 of 42 meetings and failed to vote on any attempt to reform the policy.

Still happy to pick up the expenses though of course.

(11-07-2016 23:40 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(11-07-2016 21:16 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  The bigger picture is that the money given to the 'parasites' is an investment, rather than a handout, to help them develop to a point where they too would would become net contributors one day.

I'm not saying it's working, but that's the aspiration.

(11-07-2016 23:45 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(11-07-2016 21:03 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  And that would have held as much water the next morning as the £350m to the NHS promise did.

All I ever hear is this 350m exaggeration,

(11-07-2016 23:45 )wackawoo Wrote:  I believe the more realistic amount is 100m

(12-07-2016 06:34 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Could call the scots and welsh parasites then In fact as you said you were on benefits there fore taking more than you contribute then some would class you as a parasite in fact some might say pensioners are parasites

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(12-07-2016 07:23 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  So you're saying there will be an extra £100m/week for the NHS as a direct result of Brexit? Do you have a link to this commitment?

(12-07-2016 06:34 )HannahsPet Wrote:  wont be long before that laguage gets you to this http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/weltparasit.htm
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(12-07-2016 11:51 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(12-07-2016 06:34 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Could call the scots and welsh parasites then In fact as you said you were on benefits there fore taking more than you contribute then some would class you as a parasite in fact some might say pensioners are parasites

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Totally agree, I am a parasite on society, I've certianly been told it enough, the better the job people have, the more money people are making and therefore the more tax they are paying the worse they are (being on sick pay of course is nothing more than an excuse for freeloading). However, you have no idea what I or my family have contributed to the government coffers, it may actually be considerablly more than you have, who knows?

As for anything else your opnions of me personally, like anybody elses on here, is totally worthless, since you don't know me personally.

The problem is, you can't really have a rational debate with extremist, and the remain poeple on here are pretty much as extreme as it gets. They just turn a blind eye to what you put and just dwell on what suites their arguments. For example, all I am hearing about is parasite this parasite the other, this was just one tiny FACTUAL brief throw away comment on a post pointing out that Britian was paying one of the most to the EU and getting back much less then even the other big contributers; let alone the amount the people in luxemburg get person compaired to anywhere else in the EU, where by hap a lot of EU institutions are; this would probably trigger an investigation any where else.

To people on this thread, the EU is the most glorious of glories and can do no wrong, without it the UK is finnish, when somebody more objective comes along and says' well actually that's not necessarily the case', it's met with derision, personal insults and general attacks; I suspect it's the reason that very very few leave people come on here to debate, they probably know it's usless and pointless trying.

As for the leave, I don't have to counter what they say, I was in the EU, it had no noticable effect on my life that I could see and there was no MASSIVE arguments that I could see to leave; as I have said nobody knows, it's all guess work either way.

That said, to me, it's pretty clear that being out of the EU is not going to be the catastrophy that the remain camp would have you believe and it COULD be much better for the UK; even if the worse case scenario came to pass the UK might be the 6 or 7th richest country in the world, not the 5th; and has a friend said to me (an imigrant), 'the problem with people in Britian they seem to think that having a 42 inch TV not a 52 inch TV is a problem'.

As for the Scots and welsh, pretty difficult to see who they can be parasites on Britian if they are British, if however, the scots where to leave the UK and still be getting more perhead from the EU than they were contributing, then yes at that point they would, and rather than them being 'independant' as a lot seem to crave for, they would in effect be subservient to the faceless men in the EU.

Consider this.

Lets assume there was a parliament in French Canada, lets assume they most of that was made up of french canadians, lets assume these fench canadians were un elected and un acountable to the people, lets then assume these said canadians were sat around a table and making laws with no imput from the poeple, but which every single person in the United states of america HAD to abided by, how would people in America react to this? Especially if the nominal US representatives could be out voted. This simple would not happen. Yet it is happening in the EU, Europe is NOT one country it is many, this should always be troubleing. The UK is not all powerful that it can veto everything it doesn't like; it it's out voted it's out voted.

(12-07-2016 12:05 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(12-07-2016 06:34 )HannahsPet Wrote:  wont be long before that laguage gets you to this http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/weltparasit.htm
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I just clicked this link.

OK, now I'm a Nazi that wont's millions of Jews exterminated?

I think even by this threads standards thats stupid, I knew the remain have been wagging the race card but seriously.

Wasn't you the half German? Quite ironic.