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RE: Ofcom Complain To Dutch Regulator - continental19 - 16-03-2012 12:12
(16-03-2012 06:32 )shylok Wrote: Just a thought.
Maybe a well reasoned (and timely) argument from 'our side' ....
... ... .......
What do you guys think? Worth a go?
S
Definitly Shylok go for it, if I can help in any way just give me a buzz
RE: Ofcom Complain To Dutch Regulator - shylok - 16-03-2012 14:12
I was thinking any pressure we can bring to bear from our side we must!
I'll see what a few more think. This OFCOM problem needs fighting from any and all angles.
S
RE: Ofcom Complain To Dutch Regulator - Scottishbloke - 16-03-2012 16:51
The way the Dutch censors approach late night entertainment is exactly the same as Ofcom's predecessor The ITC did, they were fair just like Nicam are and also didn't participate in bullshit like harm and offence after the watershed. Ofcom are offended by sex and nudity, that's the bottom line, it's their morals and nobody's else's, but yes something needs done, last night the channels were that bad I felt like throwing a brick at the telly, Ofcom have pissed off too many of us and for too long and it has to fucking stop, again on the positive side we have a victory for Babestation. Ofcom should also take note and lessons from the Dutch and rewrite their out of date rulebook
RE: Ofcom Complain To Dutch Regulator - matt38 - 16-03-2012 19:30
I have not read all the posts here, but from reading some it refers to a great victory for BS/babe channels over Ofcom, but just what have BS done to gain this, from where I see it, bugger all, Ofcom have shot themselves in the foot over the so called content complaint, the one thing that I have not seen mentioned is the so called investigation over the advertising of website,channels on their broadcasts, any info into this anyone.
RE: Ofcom Complain To Dutch Regulator - Matsui - 16-03-2012 19:31
(15-03-2012 21:11 )shylok Wrote: Nicam Response:
In a response to the press release from Six TV, a spokesperson for NICAM wrote in an email to Broadband TV News: “NICAM issues the highest age classification for porn in the Netherlands, 16 years, because it can be harmful for children. This implies that [such content] cannot be broadcast before 10pm. The Dutch legislator, hence also NICAM, are of the opinion that by that time children should be in bed and that adults should be able to decide what to watch and what not to watch. Indeed, NICAM does not participate in a discussion about morals or good taste when it comes to what adults can watch.”
There you go!
Shylok
Do I detect tears at Ofcom HQ?
It's nice to know that at least one regulator treats adults as, well... adults. Ofcom TAKE NOTE!
Although as satisfying as it was to read that statement, Ofcom is not going to give up on their crusade against the babes shows that easily. Mores the pity!
RE: Ofcom Complain To Dutch Regulator - Scottishbloke - 16-03-2012 19:36
Just to add further salt to Ofcom's wound's it has been confirmed that yes Eurotic TV is indeed coming to SKY TV. It will be on the SKY EPG from next week onwards
Ofcom will not be happy but hey ho they also have an oversea's licence. Oh how I'd love to be a fly on the wall right now at Ofcom HQ 
RE: Ofcom Complain To Dutch Regulator - blackjaques - 16-03-2012 19:49
(12-03-2012 23:15 )Digital Dave Wrote: What's not clear is what this 'complaint' by Ofcom to the Dutch authorities actually is (if it exists).
What have Cellcast/Game Network BV done, apart from start a bit earlier than the Ofcom-licensed channels? Ofcom have been perfectly happy with that for some time, so that can't be it.
The content is at the same level as other Freeview babe channels, so that can't be it either. The comments about on-screen masturbation etc are nonsense and just figments of a tabloid journalist's imagination to sex up the story.
Six TV's issue with EPG positioning is an entirely separate matter and the solution is in the hands of Ofcom, not Cellcast or the Dutch authorities.
Also, as we now know, the quoted Mumsnet comments were a massive red herring and nothing to do with the current issue of Dutch licensing.
Therefore I remain puzzled!
(16-03-2012 19:30 )matt38 Wrote: I have not read all the posts here, but from reading some it refers to a great victory for BS/babe channels over Ofcom, but just what have BS done to gain this, from where I see it, bugger all, Ofcom have shot themselves in the foot over the so called content complaint, the one thing that I have not seen mentioned is the so called investigation over the advertising of website,channels on their broadcasts, any info into this anyone.
It's not a victory for the babechannels at all. The UK adult broadcasters have done the sweet fuck all of zilch in fighting Ofcon.
All that has happened is that the Dutch broadcaster has applied adult standards to their output and not this pathetic "no sex" stance that the UK government has implemented.
My (adult) thanks to NICAM for their opinion.
RE: Ofcom Complain To Dutch Regulator - Scottishbloke - 16-03-2012 20:04
Agree with a lot you say Blackjaques, however we have no idea if Cellcast did indeed have a good lawyer aswell as the support of Nicam but what this does prove is that Ofcom's power is indeed limited, on the back of this defeat for Ofcom Eurotic TV right out of the blue have decided that they wish to broadcast their channel to SKY as of next week, now coincidence or what ? as I'm sure when they read the news regarding Babestation they put 2 and 2 together and went fuck it let's expand our audience even further, I sincerely believe if this sequence of events never occurred between Ofcom and Nicam then the likes of Eurotic TV wanting to join the UK SKY EPG would never have happened. Ofcom scoring a massive own goal has now made it common knowledge that their power's are indeed limited, something I firmly believe the rest of Europe probably didn't know about until now. Oversea's licence = Ofcom can do fuck all about which has proved the case over cellcast. Ofcom have infact proved the case for the defense and invited anybody who so wishe's to now to broadcast on the SKY EPG whatever they so wish to do so long as they don't have an Ofcom licence
RE: Ofcom Complain To Dutch Regulator - Digital Dave - 16-03-2012 20:06
(16-03-2012 19:36 )Scottishbloke Wrote: Just to add further salt to Ofcom's wound's it has been confirmed that yes Eurotic TV is indeed coming to SKY TV. It will be on the SKY EPG from next week onwards
This is fantastic news Sb.
I remember when you first discussed the possibility and wondered if it would ever happen I said probably not as it would be too expensive to set up separate 'soft' feeds for the UK. I'm happy to be proved wrong and I wish Eurotic every success.
An established European adult channel with foreign licence on the Sky platform - nice!
RE: Ofcom Complain To Dutch Regulator - Scottishbloke - 16-03-2012 20:11
Dave I don't want the soft feed
it's all or nothing as far as I'm concerned for Eurotic TV 
They have an oversea's licence so Ofcom to my knowledge can do fuck all about it, I'm personally looking forward to the allnight hot naked shower show's 