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RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - terence - 05-12-2016 17:30
(05-12-2016 17:17 )wackawoo Wrote: The judges:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/who-are-the-supreme-court-brexit-judges-the-11-justices-wholl-rule-on-landmark-article-50-case/ar-AAl8DQ4?li=BBoPWjQ
what a wonderfully diverse group.
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - HannahsPet - 05-12-2016 18:20
just as long they tell may to shove the royal perogative up her boney white arse
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - mysterion - 06-12-2016 00:47
(05-12-2016 15:58 )HannahsPet Wrote: To be honest Italian goverment is always in chaos hence why markets havent really responded to it
You're right. People are misguided if they think this is a crisis for Italy. It's actually situation normal. The status quo you could say.
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - The Silent Majority - 06-12-2016 07:03
(05-12-2016 11:24 )Rake Wrote: As Nigel says, EU is dying before our very eyes...
Bit like his party then...
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - lovebabes56 - 06-12-2016 09:08
But wasn't the Italian vote more about their Constitutional reform and not about the EU?
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - southsidestu - 06-12-2016 14:57
(06-12-2016 09:08 )babelover48 Wrote: But wasn't the Italian vote more about their Constitutional reform and not about the EU?
Yes many people who vote NO want to stay in the EU, it was indeed about constitutional reform.
Meanwhile Liam Fox and his Trade department have started work with the WTO for when Britain leaves the EU. They released the following statement yesterday:
"In order to minimise disruption to global trade as we leave the EU, over the coming period the government will prepare the necessary draft schedules which replicate as far as possible our current obligations."
In short The Government plans to adhere to the EU tariffs system, all those rules and regulations that have come from Brussels that the were beating the drum against are staying.
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - wackawoo - 06-12-2016 16:19
(05-12-2016 18:20 )HannahsPet Wrote: just as long they tell may to shove the royal perogative up her boney white arse
Well there's plenty that are pro EU.
But in the end, what ever any one wants to argue here, Cameroons government did place the decision in the public hands and they said they would ABIDE BY IT, binding or not.
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - HannahsPet - 06-12-2016 16:30
Yeah but they didnt write the legislation to say what happened if there was a NO Vote thats the reason we have to have this court case
Now developments in parliamant. Goverment will be forced to come up and publish a plan before article 50 is triggered goverment wants it so Article 50 is to be triggered by 31st march
SO whats all the fucking fuss has been about if they had done this months back we wouldnt need this court case
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - Bandwagon - 06-12-2016 18:30
(06-12-2016 14:57 )southsidestu Wrote: Yes many people who vote NO want to stay in the EU, it was indeed about constitutional reform.
Yes of course the Italian referendum was about their constitutional reform.
But as previously mentioned, this 'No' vote has helped pave a way for the Five Star Movement to potentially seize power. And in that likely event, don't be surprised to see them hold their own referendum on the EU.
So whilst the referendum was primarily over constitutional reform on the surface, I also find it very plausible to suggest many voters had underlying ulterior motives behind their 'No' votes. People have had enough.
So, with Eurosceptism breeding like wildfire, the Italians could easily vote to leave, if they are presented with that choice.
I believe the EU is definitely on a sticky wicket and people have good reason to be sceptical over it's long-term future.
I sincerely hope we do the right thing by abandoning this sinking ship, and we should do it now whilst we still have the chance.
RE: Europe..IN or OUT?? - mysterion - 06-12-2016 23:44
(06-12-2016 18:30 )Bandwagon Wrote: this 'No' vote has helped pave a way for the Five Star Movement to potentially seize power. And in that likely event, don't be surprised to see them hold their own referendum on the EU.
The Five Star Movement said today that they are pro-EU and strongly in favour of remaining a member of it.
What they are opposed to is Italy using the EURO CURRENCY. They are not opposed to Italy being in the EU.