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RE: Ofcom Discussion - RCTV - 07-04-2013 13:51
It's also from a producer/director role if they use a different name. I worked under 2 names, when I was in the adult industry and regular industry, although I worked in both at the same time, so kept my foot in the door with the regular industry, where a lot of people don't.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - munch1917 - 07-04-2013 13:56
(07-04-2013 03:15 )eccles Wrote: The level of prejudice in this country is such that working in the adult industry is likely to be a one way street. Easy to get into, difficult to get out of. Noone is going to employ a former porn model as a gameshow host, regional news reporter and actress, except perhaps in a very minor "no name, no lines" role. The same probably goes for directors and producers. The only people I can think of who made the transition were Melinda Messenger, who worked at the mild end of the glamour industry, and Michael Winner, whose 1960s nudist film was tame by even 1980s standards.
Linda Lusardi did OK as well, and she did some full nudes in her earlier years, not just the page3 stuff. Jo Guest as well, although she only really made guest appearances as herself.
There are countless others who flirted on the fringes, doing odd 'adult' movies or shoots before hitting it big, but most of the work they did while racy at the time, wouldn't raise an eyebrow now. Joanna Lumley was one, Diana Rigg another, and the list goes on. Bear in mind that we are going back to an era when 'Confessions of ...' was considered an 'adult' movie, so much of this stuff was extremely tame by todays standards
That said, the point is nevertheless valid, working in the adult industry is not a stepping stone to the mainstream entertainment industries, it is more likely to be a hindrance. Strange considering that a second rate actress/singer/whatever can 'release' a sex tape and boost their popularity overnight, but it doesn't work the other way round.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - continental19 - 07-04-2013 19:50
So let me get this straight, Ofcom are ok after 9pm to allow the adult channels to allow the babes to be in there underwear, and wearing G strings, after 10pm it's ok for the babes to get there boobs out, after 11pm it's ok for them to go fully nude. However what i don't understand is that if a young child walks into the room at any of these given times and happens to stumble on these channels, that according to Ofcom this doesn't deem to be harmful of offensive! right!
If however they lay on there backs or bend over and happen to show there vagina, and a child happens to be watching at that time, that it might cause the child some mental damage of some sort hence Ofcom deem it harmful? this clearly doesn't make any sense whatsoever?
Plus if there seems to be some lesbian action, Ofcom deem that this could cause some mental harm to a young child? mmmh it seems ironic that the government is pushing for gay and lesbian rights!!
At the end of the day until Ofcom is dismantled or its powers stripped from them, then the current status quo will remain. I'm wondering whether a foreign regulator could either put in a bid to take over the role of ofcom?whether its at all possible i just don't no.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - Scottishbloke - 07-04-2013 20:21
The problem we have these days is that far too many are against the adult entertainment industry, not only in the UK but also in Europe too. We had a recent scare about a proposal by the European Parliament to completely ban porn altogether.
At present we have our fair share of MP's, church do-gooders and women's lib groups campaigning against porn and the glamour industry in general. What we don't have is enough people to show support for this entertainment. The ones who are kicking up the most fuss are the ones mentioned above. They ofcourse are in the minority because most people couldn't give 2 shits about even getting involved in the subject matter at hand.
Ofcom have ofcourse taken the side of the ones wanting to ban porn. However in order for their stance to have any justification to it then ofcom have to play the minor's could be watching it card which really hold's no water or credibilty to validate their claim.
We don't just need the adult channels on SKY to stand up to ofcom. We need the adult industry as a whole to do likewise and we also desperately need a few MP's too to be on our side. We need a balance to the argument. Far too many are afraid to speak up incase it seriously damages their reputation in the public eye.
It's very easy to lament porn publicly but it's not so easy to do likewise in the opposite direction.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - continental19 - 07-04-2013 21:03
I agree with you mate, it just seems strange that the further we go into the 21st century, that the attitude towards the adult industry seems to be looked upon in a rather narrow minded way, and my question is why? I can't believe in the year 2013 that it seems attitudes have changed so much.
We live in a crazy crazy world, who ever would of thought that the female form would still cause so many problems.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 07-04-2013 21:37
Watched Dexter earlier on Fox. For those that don't know, Dexter Morgan works in the Miami Police Department as a blood splatter analyst (lab geek). He is also a serial killer who systematically kills serial killers who beat the system. He traps them, pins them down on a table with cling-film, explains to them why they must die, slives their cheek to take a memento blood sample, then plunges knife into their chest. Unseen he dismembers the corpse, bags it up, takes it out to sea and dumps the body parts.
This weeks episode opened with a warning that may or may not be standard. "Warning, the show contains sexual scenes and strong language."
RE: Ofcom Discussion - Scottishbloke - 07-04-2013 22:44
Give it a few years and technology will really be the one that well and truly defeats ofcom when the amount of channels on our SKY EPG increases dramatically. Internet TV is already on the horizon anyway.
Just how are ofcom going to be able to control not just the UK based channels but the numourous foreign ones that will most likely become a reality aswell.
At present SKY UK is broadcast from the Astra 2 satelite whilst the European ones are using the Astra 1 and various hotbird ones for their platform.
My prediction is that in a few years time we'll all be sharing the same satelite from a much larger one at a new position because money talks and increasing revenue via more subscriptions will be the way forward.
I'm currently able to view some European channels anyway via my smart phone. TV's I'd guess won't be far behind in this ever increasing and expanding era.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - iloveMegan - 08-04-2013 03:22
(07-04-2013 21:37 )eccles Wrote: This weeks episode opened with a warning that may or may not be standard. "Warning, the show contains sexual scenes and strong language."
And? There was a sexual scene and strong language, why not warn viewers who don't like that sort of thing?
RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 10-04-2013 00:36
(08-04-2013 03:22 )iloveMegan Wrote:(07-04-2013 21:37 )eccles Wrote: This weeks episode opened with a warning that may or may not be standard. "Warning, the show contains sexual scenes and strong language."
And? There was a sexual scene and strong language, why not warn viewers who don't like that sort of thing?
But no warning about violence.
I have just glanced at a previous episode and the did warn about "strong language and violence". (They say "Fuck" a lot). The latest episode did not contain an actual gory killing, but it did contain a graphic description of one, where serial killer Dexter winds up Russian mafia boss by describing in detail how he killed his associate. It also shows a coffin being opened to reveal a skeleton, people wading through raw sewage and a nosy parker collapsing and dying from poison. The sexual content consisted of a few seconds of pole dancer nipple seen in the distance and a chaste scene (or two?) where Dexter is lying beside his girlfriend, both topless but no breasts showing. There is less breast than in The Big Bang Theory, a comedy about nerdy scientists with a busty neighbour.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - iloveMegan - 11-04-2013 12:00
(10-04-2013 00:36 )eccles Wrote: But no warning about violence.
Perhaps because there wasn't any violence in that episode.
(10-04-2013 00:36 )eccles Wrote: The sexual content consisted of a few seconds of pole dancer nipple seen in the distance and a chaste scene (or two?) where Dexter is lying beside his girlfriend, both topless but no breasts showing.
The fairly explicit sex scene (at least by American TV standards) with Dexter and his partner completely naked must have slipped your notice.