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RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??) - mysterion - 08-02-2017 13:55
That's the problem exactly. She needs to compete against another MP to stand in the new Hackney Central constituency, so doesn't want to be seen to be ignoring the wishes of the people of Hackney, which is one of the biggest Remain areas in the country.
RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??) - HannahsPet - 08-02-2017 14:31
then have balls to vote against them and suck corbyn off to keep her job
RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??) - Matt77 - 08-02-2017 15:22
wackawoo: So what exactly is your point?
We both say it was an 8 to 3 majority, some judges upheld the governments claim, others didn't, it depends on how you look at it, that is, how the judges interprited the law.
You claimed I said it was 11-0 - LIE!
wackawoo: "We both say it was an 8 to 3 majority"
It was 8-3, end of story!
You can't seem to get your head around the fact that the 8 judges in the majority carry the day and set the legal precedent.
wackawoo: Youe quite welcome to try and create and cause an argument with me, but be warned, i've always been pretty mild on here, even with the likes of silent majority.
Carry on with your hostility and I might just bite.
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Fella, you're just making yourself look sillier by the post. Quaking in my boots here! Don't write cheques you clearly are incapable of cashing.
RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??) - wackawoo - 08-02-2017 18:14
(08-02-2017 15:22 )Matt77 Wrote: snip etc and so on
You claimed I said it was 11-0 - LIE!
It was 8-3, end of story!
You can't seem to get your head around the fact that the 8 judges in the majority carry the day and set the legal precedent.
Fella, you're just making yourself look sillier by the post. Quaking in my boots here! Don't write cheques you clearly are incapable of cashing.
I think you probably need lessons in how to do the quotations.
To me, I thought I did read 11-0, but your post has been edited. If not, it was nothing more than a mis read, it, however, does not negate that fact you are stupidly attacking someone who is stating facts, it was an 8 - 3 majority, your percentages are mute and mean jack shit, it's how the judges look at it and how they interprit the law, which is what I stated and which is the thing you was attacking. You seem to be confusing a unnanimous decision with a majority one; you very silly type.
Yes it was 8 - 3 wasn't it? erm, again.
But I can get my head around it, infact, I have repeated this to you several times, not only that, but welcomed the out come of the vote.
Do you normally argue like this? completely redundant points? It is sorta likeka my saying something is white, then you saying 'LIES, it is all white I can see it's white, that thing you just said was white? is white you know'.
I like the irony in your last paragraph first sentence, this amuses.
Whilst I am here with you, shall we have a quick (ish) recap an what I have actually stated about brexit and trump, the things that seems to have made you some what unstable, come to think of it quite a few.
Brexit:
The research I did, brexit could be incredibly good for the UK, but it depends on certain factors that are unknown, and could not be known. My heart was to vote leave, my head was probably stay since there was no reason to upset the apple cart as far as I could see. My choices was between voting out or not voting.
Trump:
He comes across as a very odd fellow, seems perfectly intelligent and reasonable in speaches and interviews, then he has these extremist policies and views.
These policies I don't believe he will be able to get away with or it will be impracticable to undertake.
The things he is doing are the things he said he was going to do in his campaign and are infact, things are already in place by previous incumbents.
Two weeks is far to early to judge what he will be really like, and all the attacks on him are becasue they don't want him to be pres, and he is giving them plenty of ammo to attack him.
So then, that pretty much sums up my position, if you, or anybody else for that matter, has any problems with that then the problem is entirely with you or them, with an inability to accept that some people are a little more level headed than rampant remainers or frothing at the mouth anti trump people.
RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??) - lovebabes56 - 08-02-2017 18:48
When =ill we know the result of tonight's vote?
RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??) - Matt77 - 08-02-2017 19:02
wackawoo: Stream of consciousness nonsense yet again from you. You read what you want in posts.
You are the fool confusing the decision. You almost admitted you lied about me saying it was 11-0 but you couldn't quite bring yourself to do it. My point is a majority decision sets the precedent. I studied law so I know this type of stuff back to front.
LOL, as for the lessons in how to do quotations, For once it screwed up. Your posts are an utter shambles. You've used certain excuses, but there is a spell checker on here that shows up mistakes as you type. All it takes is a bit of patience!
AND we're getting all this nonsense from a guy who didn't have the balls to vote remain or leave, but sat on the fence and now bangs on as if he is the biggest Brexiteer in the world.
Plus, I notice you didn't respond to my comments about your empty little threats towards me.
RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??) - Tumble_Drier - 08-02-2017 21:41
(08-02-2017 18:48 )babelover48 Wrote: When =ill we know the result of tonight's vote?
Bill passed. 494 to 122.
We now return you to the previous Childish arguments.
RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??) - Jack the Nipper - 08-02-2017 22:20
The brexit bill passes the final hurdle (third reading) in the House of Commons with a majority of 372 with 494 voting in favour of triggering Article 50 & 122 voting against it (as Tumble-Drier stated).The Bill also passed without no amendments added to it,the final stop before the Triggering Article 50 is the House of Lords which begins on 20th February.I can confirm that a person resembling Dianne Abbott was seen by passer-bys voting to trigger Article 50 in the Commons.
With such big majority of MP's voting in favour it does beg the question why did the Government waste so much time farting around going to the Supreme courts in the first place.The only benefactors were Gina Mullins & Charlie Mullins (who part funded the court case) who have now achieved celebrity status so expect them to sign up for the next series of Celebrity Big Brother or I'm a Celebrity.
RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??) - wackawoo - 09-02-2017 00:37
(08-02-2017 19:02 )Matt77 Wrote: wackawoo: Stream of consciousness nonsense yet again from you. You read what you want in posts.
There's irony.
Quote:You are the fool confusing the decision.
Wasn't it 8 - 3 majority?
Quote:LOL, as for the lessons in how to do quotations, For once it screwed up. Your posts are an utter shambles. You've used certain excuses, but there is a spell checker on here that shows up mistakes as you type. All it takes is a bit of patience!
Do you have any evidence what so ever about my 'excuses'?
Let me explain since you are utterly ignorant of dyslexia, you don't SEE words or part of words, or even sentences. You may see the start of a word and or sentence, and the end bit, the brian either doesn't see the rest or fills it in. What I post here is, read, reread and read again, if I were to post the first draft nobody would be able to read it. Spell checkers (incidentally they do not work on my browser) only have limited use.
Do you honestly think if I couldn't correct my English that i wouldn't? If you think that you must be even more stupid then even I think you are.
Quote:AND we're getting all this nonsense from a guy who didn't have the balls to vote remain or leave, but sat on the fence and now bangs on as if he is the biggest Brexiteer in the world.
'Balls' don't really come into it, it was decition to vote out or not at all, a none vote from me, is not a vote against the EU, surely even your pea brain can work that out. As for coming across as ' the biggest Brexiter in the world' I would repeat the devils advocate againt, but it might fuse your brain.
Quote:Plus, I notice you didn't respond to my comments about your empty little threats towards me.
Why on earth would I? If you want to dance, lets dance.
RE: Europe, Referendum & Brexit ( formerly Europe..IN or OUT??) - wackawoo - 09-02-2017 00:42
(08-02-2017 22:20 )Jack the Nipper Wrote: snip etc
With such big majority of MP's voting in favour it does beg the question why did the Government waste so much time farting around going to the Supreme courts in the first place.
They had to didn't they? May tried to avoid all this nonsense with the Royal perogative. it was challanged.