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RE: England vs India 2014 - Snooks - 20-07-2014 16:36
Can't imagine many teams have chased down that sort of score in a final innings at Lords.
The stats must surely favour India
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RE: England vs India 2014 - William H Bonney - 20-07-2014 16:47
(20-07-2014 16:36 )snookered147 Wrote: Can't imagine many teams have chased down that sort of score in a final innings at Lords.
The stats must surely favour India
Only one in a test match (West Indies in 1984). So this would be the second highest chase ever at Lord's.
RE: England vs India 2014 - straw man - 21-07-2014 14:54
In chasing 319 England reached 198/5 today and the match looked nicely in the balance with Root and Prior at the crease. However then came a collapse to 223 all out and India win an overseas test for the first time in over 3 years. Sharma took 7/74 and Root top scored for England with 66.
RE: England vs India 2014 - Tbear - 21-07-2014 15:14
(21-07-2014 14:54 )straw man Wrote: In chasing 319 England reached 198/5 today and the match looked nicely in the balance with Root and Prior at the crease. However then came a collapse to 223 all out and India win an overseas test for the first time in over 3 years. Sharma took 7/74 and Root top scored for England with 66.
This team is a mess i would surely put them below Bangladesh and above only zimbabwe as the second worst team currently around, i mean drop cook as captain and let him bat with his full concentration, whats the best thats going to happen otherwise? Hardly going to start averaging 50 a series like this.
RE: England vs India 2014 - SOCATOA - 21-07-2014 16:08
Another gubbing, there's more fight in Gary Glitters defence lawyer
RE: England vs India 2014 - Tbear - 21-07-2014 19:49
(21-07-2014 16:08 )SOCATOA Wrote: Another gubbing, there's more fight in Gary Glitters defence lawyer
The team really is hopeless, bring back KP give us some fear factor back personally i think prior's career is finished, and bell needs to stand up to often he goes missing when he is really needed bar the ashes in 2013 he has not really contributed the last few years in tests with important knocks.
RE: England vs India 2014 - Snooks - 21-07-2014 22:02
This whole England set up is hopeless imo.
The culture of English cricket has been dictated to by yes men for too long and those that have dared to speak their mind, utter the unutterable home truths and challenge authority have been cast aside too quickly too often.
England's cricket has been attritional for too long.
Devoid of ambition, creative thinking or imagination on home pitches that lend themselves perfectly to the deadpan culture of the English type game.
Cook as captain is the symbol of yes men, of failure and of lack of inspiration.
But who is there to replace him? Nobody.
Either they are not worthy of their place in the team, not captaincy material or just another yes man.
And now we know England's batsmen are inept against mystery spin, even worse against short pitch bowling (fast or not) and all too capable of throwing their wickets away in between times.
Icing on the cake? Well how about sub continent bowlers showing the English seamers how to bowl in English conditions
.You want a cherry as well,
Ok. Irony of ironies. Plunkett brought in to bowl quick and rough up the batsmen with sone chin music.
He gets fed up with that and the rebel that he is decides to pitch the ball up.
Naughty boy. Oh but wait a minute he bagged himself a bunch of wickets by doing it
.Purely accidental success of course
.The experienced players are the ones letting the side down.
I see Prior is taking a break from the game now too
.It would be highly amusing to me if Jos Buttler comes in and cements a place in the England team as the keeper just as KP would wish for
.The experienced ones seem the overly sensitive ones who seem discomforted by home truths.
I am beginning to wonder if KP said what needed to be said in the dressing room even if it did upset a load of people in the process. One man's undermining of authority is another man's necessary truth
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RE: England vs India 2014 - lancealot790 - 21-07-2014 23:06
This has been a truly shocking few months for english cricket, losing to Australia was bad enough but to lose to Sri Lanka and India is a new low even for this team. The bowling in the last two matches has been some of the worst ever, getting into strong positions only to throw away the advantage by allowing the tail to almost double the score is incompetence of the highest level. The coach and captain both need to go along with Prior, Plunkett, Stokes and Bell.
RE: England vs India 2014 - Tbear - 22-07-2014 01:00
English cricket has once again died, and the body will be cremated and the ashes taken to the museum to be buried next to the soccer team. :s
RE: England vs India 2014 - Hawaiian Brian - 22-07-2014 02:32
It would appear we have a team that cannot think for themselves.
Ishant Sharma bowled 1 over of short balls (the last before lunch) roughed up Joe Root, who managed to get down the other end via a leg bye off his chest, and then Moeen Ali, who got out off the last ball before lunch.
As both seemed incapable of ducking or swaying out of the way, the orders in the dressing room seem to be : Go out there and hook and pull!
After lunch the happy hookers thrashed away and got out.
What happened to the old axiom : Play each ball on it's merits?
If it's there to hook, hook it!
If it's not, leave it, get out of the way, but whatever you do keep your bat and gloves below the ball so you don't give catches. If you have to take a body blow, do it!
Ah, it's so much easier behind a keyboard!