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RE: England V Australia 2013-14 Ashes - ODI & T20 Series - Jack Bishop - 17-09-2013 16:59
(17-09-2013 16:15 )lancealot790 Wrote: A bowling attack of Tremlett, Rankin, Woakes, Onions and Panasar, is a far superior lineup to the garbage we had to put up with in this series. I am well aware of the problems that Monty has had just lately but he is still a far better spinner than Tredwell. As for the the Aussie lineup, Watson unlike the England players could be considered a genuine all rounder and Johnson is a strike bowler who bats a bit, add to them, Mckay, Faulkner and Ahmed and you have a have decent attack.
Sorry I was not implying you were not aware of Monty's recent, shall will say misfortune. The reason I mentioned it is I believe it means he would never be considered for a call up at this stage so soon after it. I do believe he has a great chance of being in the party to tour Oz and that the management probably feel it is better for him to be playing 4 day cricket for Essex at this moment in time whilst the dust settles.
RE: England V Australia 2013-14 Ashes - ODI & T20 Series - William H Bonney - 17-09-2013 17:12
(17-09-2013 12:35 )Boomerangutangangbang Wrote: Onions has played the last 2 Championship matches.
That is true but he did break a finger on 11 August and was ruled out for 3 to 4 weeks. The England ODI squad was announced on 27 August.
RE: England V Australia 2013-14 Ashes - ODI & T20 Series - lancealot790 - 17-09-2013 17:20
Actually i,m sorry as well my 'i am well aware' comment was badly phrased, i took no offence at the valid point you were trying to make. I am sure the selectors took Monty,s recent indiscretions into account when they left him out of the squad, my real issue is with direction Giles is taking the side,
RE: England V Australia 2013-14 Ashes - ODI & T20 Series - Jack Bishop - 17-09-2013 19:04
No worries it is all about opinions.
RE: England V Australia 2013-14 Ashes - ODI & T20 Series - Boomerangutangangbang - 17-09-2013 21:53
To be fair to Giles,Andy Flower still has overall control which is why Test Match players have been rested.Against any other nation I wouldn't be that bothered,but you should never give Australia an inch.Look at the way they celebrated with a series win,we should've sent em home with nowt.Let's hope India kick their arses in the forthcoming series.
RE: England V Australia 2013-14 Ashes - ODI & T20 Series - mickster - 18-09-2013 00:53
At the end of the day ,they short changed the paying public with the squad selection ,even Michael Vaughan stated this recently .Funny how the one-day squad was announced after all the tickets were sold !
When England play Australia it's supposed to be the highlight of the fixture list .Therefore , the strongest possible squad should have been selected .Bet the players who were "rested" were very disappointed not to be playing .
What was it 5 games over 15 days ? . Which in reality turned out to be 3 and a bit games over 15 days . Hardly a gruelling schedule ,since now they have the best part of 2months off until the next games .
It's time people realised how long on average each player actually spends on the field of play .In a 5day test they probably spend half the match sat in the pavillion !
Unless they're bowlers , bowling 30 overs per innings , I don't see why they need to be rested at all . Some of these players have played less than 40 days cricket from May 1st to August 31st inclusive .
RE: England V Australia 2013-14 Ashes - ODI & T20 Series - jimmyt73 - 18-09-2013 02:07
Although the first part of the summer was good with England's test side winning the Ashes fairly convincingly the ODI series was a poor effort by a mostly inexperienced side,dont get me wrong bringing in new players from time to time can be a positive move,but to rest the three bowlers that played a big part in winning the ashes when our top order batsmen failed was too complacent and something that will give the Aussies a definate advantage in November.