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RE: General Election 2019 - lovebabes56 - 13-12-2019 06:08
I think the Commons will be very quiet without Dennis Skinner, Think along with Ken Clarke, who I think who he was standing down before the election two of this country's political stalwarts will be missing when Parliament reconvenes. I know I missed John Bercow and maybe a few others who announced they were standing down before the election, but to me Clarke and Skinner are Parliamentary giants.
I think having a few new faces in the Commons is a good thing, but at the same time despite Boris having the majority he is predicted to have and therefore the clear mandate, in the back of his mind he must be wondering how many by - elections might take place during this term that could reduce that majority over time. I think however sizeable the majority is I still think/predict that the ERG will find a new way to roadblock the deal he wants to push through, even if it means they go down the legal route to block it. I do think his deal won't have the easy passage he thinks it will have to be ratified by 31 January - come 31st March 2020 FOUR YEARS after the original referendum result, Parliament will still be somehow paralysed over Brexit.
RE: General Election 2019 - Goodfella3041 - 13-12-2019 06:21
Americans (hopefully) have just one more year of Trump. We have this lying maniac and his heartless goon squad for at least another 5.
Not to be alarmist, but ... ummmm ... we're all fucked.
RE: General Election 2019 - The Silent Majority - 13-12-2019 07:19
Brief summery of Gove's speech - "Everyone who didn't vote for us is a cunt"
RE: General Election 2019 - lovebabes56 - 13-12-2019 07:24
Boris Johnson's victory speech on Radio 5 live. One problem he has to understand how many YEARS it will take us to leave the EU. Still remember his ping pong speech at the end of 2008 Olympics.
RE: General Election 2019 - SecretAgent - 13-12-2019 07:36
I was born in West Yorkshire and in a constituency that had elected a labour MP since the 1930’s. Last night it voted Conservative. In my youth it was the normal thing to attend the annual miners gala. I can recall seeing Scargill when he was the miners leader and Tony Benn giving firebrand speeches. I admired their speaking skills but knew I detested their politics. That was not a thing I could even speak about in my own family.
In 2020 the Miners gala is in Durham. It is now a Conservative seat.
Yesterday for the first time I did not vote Conservative in Parliamentary election for 2 main reasons - Brexit and Boris Johnson. Well I’m now stuck with both.
If I have one hope from this result it will be that as the Conservatives now hold many traditionally Labour seats with a population that differs from those they traditionally hold that they will govern with a compassion and desire to improve the lives of those people. Those new MP’s will hold constituency surgeries with people who are desperate about NHS problems, Universal Credit, jobs etc. I hope they will represent them as they should and change things for the good.
RE: General Election 2019 - lovebabes56 - 13-12-2019 07:56
If you had stood in thr election I think you would have won a huge majority in whatever seat you contested even if you stood as an independent, but I am in complete agreement with your post. The new MP's are going have a shock to their system, but they have to realise that they have to deliver FULLY on what they stood for, and deliver it with compassion for those they are serving where ever their constituencies are.
BJ needs to show the same compassion as those elected will probably show (we hope but I know BJ won't show any compassion). He has said it is a new Conservative government, but I don't think very much will change Cabinet - wise.
Benn's & Scargill's speeches were firebrand and passionate at the same time, but when you look back on it, that miner's strike was perhaps one of the biggest single violent strikes I can remember in my lifetime, it spilt communities in the mining industry right down the middle which I am sure you will testify from your perspective that was one thing you noticed. And probably some communities have never recovered from it.
RE: General Election 2019 - Rammyrascal - 13-12-2019 08:30
(13-12-2019 07:24 )babelover48 Wrote: Boris Johnson's victory speech on Radio 5 live. One problem he has to understand how many YEARS it will take us to leave the EU. Still remember his ping pong speech at the end of 2008 Olympics.
Spot on. I already can’t wait for the ERG wing of the conservatives & all those who voted Tory thinking brexit will be done by the 31st January or the end of 2020 to kick off when it won’t be. It’s going to take years
RE: General Election 2019 - Rammyrascal - 13-12-2019 08:32
Oh dear Jo Swinson
starting the campaign introduced as “campaigning to be the uk’s next pm” to finishing the campaign no longer an mp 
RE: General Election 2019 - ShandyHand - 13-12-2019 08:32
As others have said if there's one good thing this Hobson's choice of an election should bring about it's a shift in Labour's position towards the centre ground. And of course there'll be plenty of scope to play to a more moderate social agenda with the field being vacated with such alacrity by the incumbent pm since the summer. We will now get more edging to the right from him no doubt.
I say the latter not out of fear of a finally here Brexit or anything else he may foist on us - we will muddle through in typically boring and stolidly British fashion - but with a more mundane irritiant in my head: The single thing I'll detest most over the next 5 years is how - and it's already begun of course - this result has/will be portrayed in the media and by his fellow arse lickers as a ringing endorsement of Boris the man, his vacuous Trump-Lite methods, and hollow populist policies. This result was no such thing. (The Conservative vote went up a measly 1% on the unpopular May's turnout in 2017. Your man was openly laughed at on national TV ffs.) This election was lost by the other parties not won particularly; it represents only two things IMO...
1. Sort out your own shit Boris.
2. Go away Corbyn and your outdated ideas.
I see nothing else in the enforced selection (even the options away from the main two were poor) of last night.
RE: General Election 2019 - SecretAgent - 13-12-2019 08:46
It does seem though that Corbyn intends to hang around long enough to screw up the Labour Party for years to come. The Corbynistas love to denigrate Blair but fail to recognise that by the end of this Parliament it will be 48 years since another Labour Leader won a majority (Harold Wilson). Blair won 3 elections in a row. They need to learn the lesson and fast because if they don't they will be an irrelevance for longer than the next 5 years