(11-08-2018 22:31 )southsidestu Wrote:  Interesting report on a study from The Observer/Guardian showing that since the referendum more than 100 seats in the United Kingdom have swung from Leave to Remain now giving Remain a majority of constituencies in Parliament. I will point out that the study was commissioned by Better for Britain who are against Brexit and Hope not Hate. That being said the people carrying out the study based their data on polling from "Right Leaning" YouGov and census information from the Office of National Statistics and it is the same group that came up with a Leave majority of constituencies in 2016.

It is known that most MPs in Parliament are against Brexit but fear voting against it as it will likely result in them losing their seat but that no longer is the case. Will it really change anything? Probably not but it is another sign that the country's attitude towards leaving is changing and fast

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/11/more-than-100-pro-leave-constituencies-switch-to-remain?CMP=share_btn_tw

(12-08-2018 12:38 )gunnar Wrote:  ^ I'm not sure how much anyone would be able to negotiate on the matters at hand with fernanda there.

(12-08-2018 16:34 )Jack the Nipper Wrote:  Aside from from the whole taking polls with a pinch of salt argument as 'they always get it wrong' & so for a poll to hold water or be taken remotely seriously then the pollster/or persons carrying out the poll & on behalf of whom & the demographic of the voter has to be scrutinized.I would have a lot more belief in pollster that is politically neutral & has no leaning in either side of an argument on the subject their are polling.If YouGov as you claim are as 'right leaning' as you say why would left-wing organizations like 'Best for Britain' & 'Hope Not Hate' (who funded this poll) touch them with a bargepole.YouGov's former president Peter Kellner (who retired in 2016) admitted on a political programme a month or so ago he was a staunch Remainer who believes we need a 2nd vote,he is also a columnist in the Guardian as well.YouGov 'right-leaning' methinks not.

In truth this Observer/Guardian poll needs to be treated with the biggest dollop of cynicism it deserves because the very poll funders 'Best for Britain' & 'Hope not Hate' aren't just staunch anti-Brexit protesters they have also been recipients of EU funding in the past.As a stickler for fine detail when analyzing the statistics of this 'Seizmic Shift in Public Opinion on Brexit' apparently all 632 constituencies were studied & 15,000 people interviewed so doing the maths (15,000 /632 =23.7). And so apparently with approx 24 people asked in every constituency in theory they come to the grand conclusion most leave voters are now a willing to vote remain now,leave constituencies are now remain & remain will win a 2nd vote by 53% to 47%.And besides does anyone know someone (who may know someone else) that has ever been interviewed for a poll ever,as I haven't.

A better reflection of how public moods are on Brexit rather than reading some biased polling that suit someones political agenda would be to ask friends,family,work colleagues ie people in the real world rather than some Bot & for me political opinion hasn't really changed with the of people I speak to (I do speak to quite a lot of people in my job).

Whatever political persuasions the majority of people would agree that the Government's handling of Brexit are an absolute shambles (& Labour wouldn't fare any better) with no preparations for any eventuality,remain supporting civil servants negotiating Brexit suggesting there isn't any real political will to leave the EU.