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RE: Ofcom Discussion - iluvcathy - 01-04-2015 14:23
(31-03-2015 23:59 )Scottishbloke Wrote: Reading the latest article makes me really depressedJust when will it ever end. I have seen the news a few times today and it piss's me off to no end that wait for this, children are able to access porn on the internet more easily than ever before and not only does this make the news but its also headline news. It's not even fucking news worthy.
What next I wonder to make the headlines. Have the babe channels gone too far, 1 in 5 kids now watch Babestation so lets ban the fucking lot of them altogether as it has obviously been proven conclusively beyond all reasonable doubt that this is fact.
Not only am I fucking sick of the dumbing down of the adult channels as a result of this but I'm also fucking raging that we are consistently being fed this daily bullshit propaganda on a daily basis. Oh and its not just on the news where this old chestnut is being discussed, try all these stupid bastard womens lib programmes such as Loose Women and ofcourse This Morning (Remember that's the programme where we had a chef cook naked at 10 in the bastard morning)
I despise paying my fucking TV Licence just to be preached to by some arsehole hypocritical knows fuck all politician or women's right bitch who is using the oh what about the children, protect the children nonsense.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that what the parents are for. Anyhow we all know what the real reason is and it's of a vested hatred and obvious agenda against what they don't like.
Fuck ofcom, and fuck any of these hypocritical inbreed cunts!
I agree with that comment 100%
RE: Ofcom Discussion - SCIROCCO - 01-04-2015 19:04
Interesting how the female and uphill skiing community are allowed to froth over the male lead in Poldark but any sign of a decent set of scones on mainstream TV and the world is going to end.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 03-04-2015 00:17
(02-03-2015 20:04 )blackjaques Wrote:(01-03-2015 13:09 )SCIROCCO Wrote: There a distinct lack of "excited" male performers on TVX etc. Not sure about the Playboy channels but the bg stuff has got a lot tamer over the past few weeks.
The Adult Channel shows quite a lot of erect penises now. It's quite explicit and there are often scenes where the lady caresses the said penis. Fellatio is still, though, only allowed in silhouette or if the gentleman is wearing a pair of Y Fronts.
I suspect that this relaxing of the rules (erect penises in sex works were categorised as R18 by BBFC some yeas ago) may be due (my own guess) to the gay channel viewers complaining about total lack of eroticism without the erections on show.
I've not watched the Gay Channel (difficulty in explaining to my female partner that it's all in the name of research) so I don't know what goes on there so I could be talking absolute bull.
Anyway, talking of "bull" it's well to remind ourselves why we cannot see full R18 on UK tele. The ONLY reason, so we are told by Ofcon, is that they need to protect all the children who are watching these shows. Therefore, oral sex and penetration are dangerous to these kids. By default, everything that is shown is therefore Ok to be viewed by children.
Surely, nobody believes that crap from Ofcon yet they still peddle it and the thick broadcasters just bend over and take one for the good of the UK. Bravo, sirs.
Very delayed response to this, but what gay channel? There used to be two, one encrypted paid content and one free but clothed selling sex chat, didnt they both fold ages back? Sad comment on the times that the UK cant support even one dedicated gay channel despite gay men being more open about their interests and less worried about censure.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 03-04-2015 00:25
Any thought on politicans, other public figures, magazines, newspapers or high profile social media sites that would be willing to push an anti censorship message in the run up to the election?
RE: Ofcom Discussion - Scottishbloke - 03-04-2015 01:48
Unlike 5 years ago there really isn't any hope on the ofcom front. Things will not change. All the major parties support Ofcom and all major parties are united in their opposition to anything of an adult nature.
The only Government out there that would realistically look to scrap Ofcom and this bullshit censorship regime would be UKIP and as much as I hate them I am beginning to understand why among other issues that are crippling the UK (which I'd better not mention as this isn't really the time or place to be airing these views) why they might be inclined to give them the vote.
Interesting to note that other forms such as gambling on devious money making schemes which are clearly targeted at children such as Candycrush aren't being discussed in the same manner that our children are able to access porn is. If the UK Government want to get on their moral high horse then lets not make any exceptions.
In saying that wasn't one of their own politicians recently caught playing the game going by the name of Nigel Mills during a Commons committee hearing.
Candycrush has been proven to be very addictive as it promps you to shell out money if you run of moves etc to clear a level.
Fucking hypocrites
RE: Ofcom Discussion - donnafan913 - 04-04-2015 10:36
another regulator or would it be Ofcom ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32180744
Porn sites must have age checks, say Conservatives
Pornography websites must adopt age-restriction controls or face closure, the Conservatives say.
Culture Secretary Sajid Javid said the party would ensure under-18s were prevented from seeing adult content.
In a recent Childline poll, a tenth of 12 to 13-year-olds were worried they were addicted to pornography.
The plan is targeted at both UK-based and overseas websites and would be introduced if the Tories are in power after the general election.
Experts have welcomed the idea but warned it would be difficult to implement.
The proposed system would be overseen by an independent regulator with the power to force internet service providers to block sites which failed to include effective age verification.
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Providers who did not co-operate could also be fined.
Mr Javid said: "If you want to buy a hardcore pornography DVD in a store you need to prove your age to the retailers.
The number of ChildLine counselling sessions regarding porn more than doubled last year to over 1,100
Peter Wanless, NSPCC chief
"With the shift to online, children can access adult content on websites without restriction, intentionally or otherwise.
"That is why we need effective controls online that apply to UK and overseas. This is about giving children the best start in life.
"We do not want to prevent adults from accessing legal content but we do want to protect our children from harmful material, so they are free to develop a healthy attitude to sex and relationships."
He told BBC Breakfast an effective age control mechanism might be the use of credit cards.
'Deepening concern'
He said in some countries, such as Finland, there are EIDs - electronic IDs - in place.
"So there are ways there and there might be new ways in the future. The key thing is, it's not for me or politicians to decide what's effective. That will be the job of a regulator, but it is possible," he said.
Sarah Green, acting director of the End Violence Against Women Coalition, said: "Surveys have shown that more than half of young people have seen online pornography by the age of 14, and that many see it without even seeking it out as links are shared on social networks."
NSPCC chief Peter Wanless said the easy availability to children of online pornography was of "deepening concern".
He added: "It can leave them feeling frightened, confused, depressed or upset. The number of ChildLine counselling sessions regarding porn more than doubled last year to over 1,100 with some young girls revealing they were being pressured to mimic scenes from adult films.
"Any action that makes it more difficult for young people to find this material is to be welcomed.
"The key will be making any system work effectively as we know foreign outlets are recklessly flooding the market with films that can be viewed by anyone without any age checks in place."
RE: Ofcom Discussion - munch1917 - 04-04-2015 11:41
(04-04-2015 10:36 )donnafan913 Wrote: another regulator or would it be Ofcom ?
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Ofcom/ATVOD
Nothing really new in any of this, it's just a continuation of the line they have been pushing for a while.
The only slightly new thing about it is the move to apply this to non-UK sites and to use isp-level blocking for non-compliant sites. That ramps it up a notch from where we currently stand, but whether that will actually happen, or whether it is just pre-election soundbites remains to be seen.
Most US sites already have a simple 'Are you 18+' step before entering (I believe it's mandatory), but ATVOD requirements go much further. It's hard to imagine all those sites would be prepared to install ATVOD-level verifications just to reach the UK market. It's equally hard to imagine how any regulator could possibly hope to monitor and check all these sites to ensure they satisfy their requirements.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - ShandyHand - 04-04-2015 11:58
Not strictly Ofcom related but fits here best I think in light of the above:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/simon-danczuk-admits-to-watching-porn-claiming-he-is-a-man-of-the-world-10143110.html
At last we have a politician come out and say he uses porn. Shame he was cornered into it but at least it's a little to counter to the now almost ceaseless tide of anti-porn stories.
Really can't see where this backlash against net will end. If some have their way we will end up with our net access censored not far behind that of China's.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - SteveHG - 04-04-2015 14:38
I suppose it was inevitable that the politicians (particularly the Tories) would come up with some proposed anti-porn measures to try and win votes from the Mary Whitehouse brigade in the run-up to an election. Nobody's going to be in favour of under-age kids watching porn of course so they'll feel they're on solid ground, but as we all know these things are always the thin end of the wedge, and no doubt they will want to go further.
Fortunately the idea of electronic age checks seems totally unrealistic and no doubt this will all disappear once the votes are counted and the feelings of satisfied self-righteousness have subsided.
I do admire the honesty of the MP who admitted to using porn - sadly for him in these hypocritical times he's probably signed his own political death warrant.
RE: Ofcom Discussion - eccles - 04-04-2015 21:02
Lets be honest here.
Which MP would you trust more, given recent allegations? One denies any interest in erotic content, or a "blokey" one like Boris Johnson or Shagger Norris?
I am not talking approval, but trust and honesty.