(31-08-2018 00:38 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Should put Sean Dyche in control of Coming out of Europe he has now has expeience

(30-08-2018 23:02 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  

(30-08-2018 18:45 )cwpussylover Wrote:  typical remoaners load of bolox

Typical Brexiteer response when they can't put together a decent counter argument

(31-08-2018 01:34 )Jack the Nipper Wrote:  As things stand with Freedom of Movement in the EU the immigration controls actively discriminates against highly skilled migrants like surgeon's,doctors, computer engineer's etc from non-EU countries in favour of EU-migrants carrying out un-skilled jobs like fruit pickers,street cleaners etc.The whole point to the old cliched saying 'taking back control of immigration' & ending freedom of movement via a visa system would be to control immigration in areas where there maybe a surplus of labour for that particular line of work.Should there be labour shortages that cannot be filled locally then apply visa systems to workers from outside the UK (no matter what country).More importantly though is that with the end of freedom of movement is that there would be a more fairer immigration system where one country is not discriminated against another.

And whilst controlling immigration in the EU was one of many reasons why I voted Leave what could possibly be wrong with adopting an Australian Points based system regarding immigration with criteria being no criminal record, medically fit to work,a guaranteed job/work or sponsor (unable to access benefits system on arrival) but also be of a good financial standing.

One thing Corbyn & the Labour party has campaigned against in the EU was the current situation regarding job vacancies in the UK where at the moment no company is currently obligated to advertise vacancies in this country & can solely recruit from the EU in job fairs or Polish,Romanian etc recruitment agencies, pretty much what many companies did when building the Olympic venues/village for the 2012 Olympics (which politicians like Boris knew about but never mentioned).Corbyn has been pretty vocal that he wants companies advertising vacancies in the UK before the advertise in the EU if the position hasn't been filled.

I've been working in the construction industry (probably the largest industry that has seen the rise in EU workers in the UK) for almost 25 years (since I was 16) & believe me on the 100's of sites I have worked in my time the recruitment of apprentices have plummeted dramatically particularly over the past 10-15 years pretty much because companies don't want the hassle of employing school/college leavers (which is a shame) also because companies prefer recruiting EU workers or advertising in the EU.

(31-08-2018 01:49 )Jack the Nipper Wrote:  Apparently in the papers earlier this week Paula Lane who played Kylie Platt (David's wife) in Corrie has blamed Brexit for not being able to get any acting roles since her character was killed off 2 years ago in Corrie.Nothing to do with the fact your lack of credible acting skills didn't exactly set the world alight Paula.

As I've literally just typed this the light bulb in my bathroom has just blown damn you Brexit (what else could it have been).

(31-08-2018 17:51 )southsidestu Wrote:  In an ideal world free movement of people would be expanded globally and there would not be a disparity between FOM & Visa applicants, what we have is not a perfect system but I would not sacrifice all the other advantages of The EU for an Australian points based system. To be honest immigration is very much a non issue for me, my only concern on immigration is how to make it less of an issue for the rest of the country. I really don't care whether a job or a social house goes to someone from this country or not, nationality does not equal merit, you had nothing to do with where you were born it's not an achievement that you managed to make your way out your Mother's vagina in the same country that the job is available in. I don't even care if someone comes to this country illegally if they are going to work and abide by the law when they are here I don't give a fuck.

As for companies hiring from other countries it's called the Free Market, if they want to do that then that is there prerogative but perhaps rather than leaving The EU altogether we could look for a bit of state intervention into the market. Germany has a vocational training programme an alternative to higher education that accounts for 60% of it's young people, it's currently exporting it's model to 18 other countries and helping them set it up. It's not just the German government but German companies abroad are looking to adapt the model, BMW has foreign apprenticeship programmes in other countries including EU countries such as Spain. Austria has also passed a law that gives young people the right to an apprenticeship.

As we see with BMW it is entirely possible for private companies within the EU to hire people on apprenticeship schemes within that country, the fact that British firms don't is not indicative to The EU (if Germany, Spain & Austria can do it then so can we) it's that it's indicative to the culture of these British companies and perhaps successive governments. Administration after Administration like to talk about apprenticeships & alternatives to higher education but they always fall short of anything even remotely half decent and as always successive governments like to point the finger at The EU Bogeyman rather than take any responsibility for their own failings. We don't need to leave The EU in order to combat these issues.

(12-09-2018 11:57 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  I see Ian Duncunt Smith has finally admitted he and his fellow Brexiteers don't actually have an alternative plan for Brexit...