Ofcom Discussion - Printable Version +- The UK Babe Channels Forum (https://www.babeshows.co.uk) +-- Forum: Channels (/forumdisplay.php?fid=8) +--- Forum: UK Babe Channels (/forumdisplay.php?fid=9) +---- Forum: Broadcasting Regulations (/forumdisplay.php?fid=138) +---- Thread: Ofcom Discussion (/showthread.php?tid=14756) Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 |
RE: Ofcom Discussion - ShandyHand - 16-07-2015 15:32 Key points of the government's green paper on the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33556009 RE: Ofcom Discussion - ShandyHand - 01-08-2015 18:08 Not strictly babeshow/Ofcom related but follows on from Sharon White's recent acceptance, in principle, to regulating the BBC... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-osborne-under-pressure-to-reveal-if-meeting-with-rupert-murdoch-preceded-announcement-of-bbc-cuts-10428769.html ...Also someone of a paranoid bent might ask: What might be amongst the things the Government would likely request from Murdoch in return for doing him these kinds of new favours? RE: Ofcom Discussion - circles_o_o_o - 13-09-2015 22:53 Ofcom have got it wrong all this time The reason watching porn might make you a better person : http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/the-reason-watching-porn-might-make-you-a-better-person--bJXSs8cZ8g RE: Ofcom Discussion - ShandyHand - 29-11-2015 11:36 I was a bit busy last month and forgot to post this: Ofcom are taking ATVOD's work in-house. The take-over is in January: http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/oct/14/video-on-demand-ofcom-atvod http://www.digitaltveurope.net/443191/ofcom-to-take-over-vod-regulation-from-atvod/ So that's one less quango at least! The main motive is pretty obviously budgetary IMO. For "effective" read "cost-effective" primarily. This looks like a Sharon White initiative to me given her background and obvious cost-saving remit at Ofcom. More insidiously, Melonfarmers are claiming that the decision may have been influenced by ATVOD recent loss in the courts: http://mistressrealsdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/mistress-real-v-atvod-i-won.html?zx=b7ec7f73f8aeb275 ...and that they are angling for controls over more of the 'net. Evidenced with articles such as this one, that is hard to argue with: http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/news/digital-natives-often-lack-digital-nous/ Ofcom are taking on two new board members in December as they look to cover this extra ground: http://media.ofcom.org.uk/news/2015/content_board_appointments/ RE: Ofcom Discussion - IvIaxed Stats 76 - 01-12-2015 22:35 May aswel add my opinion I got sky back after about eighteen months today and after noticing a few channels short,I was enjoying the nice ladies on the channels but I've also only just realised that most of the daytime threads have gone,I remember their was a host of different shows,lad lounge party people channel 960 paradiso boudoir red light the pad elite TV legends chat lounge early bird office babe and well off all them shows came back I'd be extremely happy,the world should be a happier place and these shows were brilliant,no adverts and lots of entertainment and laughs,awe inspiring moments and more,I'm hoping 2016 can see the ressurection of said shows as its unique and mostly different every time,all I say is I hope this is going to be the end like the quiz shows ended,I enjoyed them babes aswel lol,almost as sexy but I really love the day show babes shows a lot and I'm really happy getting my sky back so I say let's just have a little bit of enjoyment in an other world were its not very often its sad to say RE: Ofcom Discussion - ShandyHand - 13-12-2015 16:47 Two in at Ofcom (above), one out: http://news.sky.com/story/1598573/hill-quits-ofcom-board-for-tilt-at-channel-4 Stephen Hill was 17 months into a supposed 4 year term on their board! (OT but interestingly obvious political manoeuvrings behind this re. the top job at Channel4. Ofcom wanted their previous man to continue in the role but ministers vetoed that as they are keen to flog of the channel. So Ofcom are installing their presumably more conciliatory new man, Hill, in the job instead.) Perhaps more to point, Ofcom are changing the way they assess fines for content breaches: http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/dec/03/large-broadcasters-face-bigger-fines-from-ofcom They are targeting the big boys more heavily. Fines will now "take into account [a firm's] total turnover." The crucial passages start with an Ofcom spokesperson stating that this is about, "enabling us impose higher penalties where appropriate and proportionate to do so.” Then: "The changes follow a consultation which took contributions from 14 interested organisations, half of which were from companies which Ofcom regulates. Four organisations supported the proposals while the rest did not." (That's fairness for you isn't it! Consult and then ignore the fact that 71% disagree with you!) "Ofcom’s penalty structure varies between contraventions, with some upper limits set at a maximum of 10% of a firm’s turnover and others a set sum. The regulator does not offer a list of fines for different breaches of its rules as it says this would undermine its desire to ensure companies comply." This is state sponsored spin at it's best. All about raising the total of revenue for the government while claiming to be about fairness!* But the main point as far as this board is concerned is: Will these changes encourage the babe channels to chance their arm a little with the regulator? They certainly now have more idea of what their fines for transgresion might be than they had in the past... Ofcom's corporate mindset would certain seem to be on plenty of higher things than the babeshows atm too when you look at their column inches. I hope someone at the channels is reading carefully with their lawyers. * This has probably been on here many times before but I think this is an opportune moment to remind ourselves where these millions of pounds go: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/where_does_money_when_fined_by_o To quote: "These balances are made available at the end of each working day to the National Loans Fund to help minimise the overall cost of Government borrowing." Ofcom may not benefit from these monies directly; but it certainly does no harm to your career to swell the coffers of the people that put you in the job in the first place. RE: Ofcom Discussion - rpj316 - 20-12-2015 12:02 Why do politicians and watchdog groups blame all the.world's problems on porn and adult entertainment? RE: Ofcom Discussion - andyjb - 20-12-2015 12:37 With politicians, they are probably using it as a smoke screen to get peoples attention, whilst they quietly slip through a policy they do not want too much notice taken of. Bunch of hypocrites telling us what we can or can not do. Just like the rest of us, if you class any sexual act as adult entertainment, or depending on what you choose to do to spice things up, which may involve elements they consider to be porn, then they themselves and any children they may have, would never have been conceived in the first place. RE: Ofcom Discussion - ShandyHand - 20-12-2015 13:10 (20-12-2015 12:02 )rpj316 Wrote: Why do politicians and watchdog groups blame all the.world's problems on porn and adult entertainment? Because it's this decade's easy scapegoat that enables politicians to win votes with a certain Daily Mail-reading type. (Like rock 'n' roll, the hippie movement, punk, video 'nasties', football-goers, video gamers, and gangster rap before it; all have been blamed for all manner of society's weaknesses with so little genuine supporting evidence.) Railing against these these things allows these bureaucrats to be seen to be apparently doing something about a problem when in actual fact they are doing bugger all and are totally ineffectual at addressing the real root causes of the country's ills. Root causes that their policies have often instigated in the first place, but are in actuality much more difficult and expensive to address effectively. In other word's, it's good vote-winning smokescreen that covers there own asses and which actions against cost virtually nothing to implement - a politicians dream. (And, in this case, probably a wet one too! ) All this despite, as andy points out, the hypocrisy involved; stemming from a religious guilt of anything related to sex that's not 'missionary with the lights off' for purposes of procreation. The generation with power is also never totally happy with society's changes as it makes their position feel vulnerable. RE: Ofcom Discussion - ShandyHand - 20-12-2015 15:10 Looking back at the end of post 35666 I feel I was a little overly optimistic! Thinking about it, there were more likely collective shrugs at the channels over that Ofcom statement. All the info we have says that the channels are perfectly content with the content rules they are working under atm - presumably because the rules enable to generate extra revenue by offering such content elsewhere. Why would they look to change things as long as that continues? I find it hard sometimes not to revert to a viewer mindset on that one! Anyway, new news... Ofcom have now outlined how they intend to proceed with controlling VOD: http://www.digitaltveurope.net/476962/ofcom-launches-consultation-on-vod-regulation/ Broadly, they are looking to bring it more in line with the way TV-content is controlled and are proposing to make the licensing free to service providers for the first time. I also found this piece, about a £20,000 fine Ofcom imposed on NTV (or rather it's owners ITCE), particularly interesting: http://www.media247.co.uk/bizasia/ofcom-fines-bengali-channel-ntv-20k-2015 White and co are apparently still clearing Ed Richards' old cases! The regulator had apparently been watching this 'newboy' to the UK from the beginning. (After two previous attempts to launch in the UK, on "30 April 2012: A new consortium took control of NTV in the UK and resumed broadcasting on Sky channel 852." It has since moved to 853. [source: wikipedia]) The article goes into much detail about how Ofcom worked the case and can, presumably, be taken as a case-study with pointers for how they work alongside all service providers to ensure compliance and (currently) deal with breaches in general. Such main points are I think:
These breaches are now over a year old but, as part of their sanction, Ofcom are "undertaking a period of monitoring of the Licensee’s broadcast output to assess whether the content of the service is compliant with the Code. If there are further compliance failings after the imposition of this statutory sanction... [and] Licensee has failed to respond adequately to other regulatory action, we may have cause to reconsider whether revocation of the licence would be appropriate." All in all (even considering that Ofcom were obviously giving this newboy some leeway) this is now hardly the one small slip and we'll fine you heavily process it is sometimes painted to be is it? Do I think that Ofcom would treat the babe channels with as much consideration? I don't know but as a viewer you have to ask yourself who it benefits to have Ofcom's processes painted in such black and white terms? Make a demon out of the regulator's content levels and processes and certain people escape the blame for much poor programming. * Section 9 is "Commercial References in TV Programming", 5 concerns impartiality and accuracy and 6 is on "Elections and Referendums". |