(15-11-2018 05:38 )Scots Napoleon Wrote:  We're no less special than Northern Ireland.

(19-11-2018 19:58 )southsidestu Wrote:  When the funding of George Soros is referred to the Electoral Commission or the National Crime Agency, I will criticise his involvement.

For someone who in the previous paragraph referred to someone as a scumbag and makes a habitat of name calling just about every person in the public eye he doesn't like in his posts you don't half get triggered easily by my insinuations of Brexiteer intelligence , maybe don't dish it out in bucket loads if you can't take it back in thimble loads. Just because you didn't vote for the reasons above does not mean that many others did not, after all these were the main arguments the Leave campaigners were making (one of them was printed out in giant letter on the side of a fucking bus), someone had to vote on these factors, unless you are saying that the Leave campaign had no affect on the voters whatsoever and the result would of been the same without it.

Furthermore you mentioned that people will have voted to become an independent country, I have got news for you, Britain is an independent country in fact we are the country that most other countries celebrate their independence from. We independently opted into the EU with a referendum, we independently opted into what we wanted to do, we independently opted out of two of the EU's most integral policies (Schengen & The Euro), we independently vetoed the revised Lisbon treaty in 2011 (26-1 & because of the veto rules it was the 1 that won it, oh the oppression is too much to bare) and we independently held a referendum on our membership and independently triggered A50 as a result. I have always been amused by the Brexiteers that say that we are being subjected to the unelected dictatorship of Brussels, a dictatorship where you can refrain from 2 of its most integral aspects, have your agenda met when you are the only one who supports that agenda and then chose to leave at anytime through a vote. Don't think they have a good handle on what a dictatorship is and I don't think your argument does as much to separate you form the pack as you think it does

(19-11-2018 18:48 )Goodfella3041 Wrote:  I'm framing this bit!

(19-11-2018 15:24 )Jack the Nipper Wrote:  I completely agree with Goodfella

I won't try to respond to the rest of it because there is too much to take in, but the thought of what a second referendum question might be is an intriguing one.

If it's a three-pronged question, then I agree that they might as well skip the referendum altogether, because Remainers would vote "Remain" and Leavers would have their vote split in two. We could skip the formalities altogether and just Remain, in that case, because it really would be a stitch-up.

(20-11-2018 21:37 )Goodfella3041 Wrote:  It was a razor thin majority in 2016 though.

I'm not saying you're one of them, but I don't think it is unreasonable to assume that a lot of people voted Leave because they bought the Johnsonian horseshit about how easy it would be to negotiate a stellar deal.

A fair outcome, in my opinion, would be the following:

(a) If Parliament votes for the TM deal, then so be it ... out we go.

(b) If Parliament votes against the TM deal, then that option is off the table and we throw it to a People's Vote with a binary question: EXIT WITH NO DEAL or REMAIN