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RE: RIP Nelson Mandela - 4evadionne - 06-12-2013 10:29
A stalwart tireless ambassador for his people, who's shining light and immense presence will always be remembered with esteem and regard around the globe for generations.
R.I.P Nelson Mandela.
RE: RIP Nelson Mandela - terence - 06-12-2013 10:31
(06-12-2013 00:48 )tuesdayslump Wrote:(06-12-2013 00:19 )sweetsugar007 Wrote: Tonight is a night to celebrate and remember that it was this man who campaigned for racial equality in a time when anyone could have understood him being twisted and bitter and shook the hand of FW Klerk and said lets do this together.
All true, but:
He was also a terrorist in the vein of the IRA, whatever the justification of his actions, he was once a terrorist and therefore can never be considered 'the greatest human that ever lived'.
the term 'one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter' could be used but any human being with a shred of decency and humanity would see him as the latter, a freedom fighter. if you see him as the former then i feel that you have deep-seated issues that i nor anyone else would be able to change on a public forum. shame.
RE: RIP Nelson Mandela - groundnpound - 06-12-2013 11:49
RIP MANDELA. YNWA.
RE: RIP Nelson Mandela - SOCATOA - 06-12-2013 11:51
Rest easy mate.
RE: RIP Nelson Mandela - tuesdayslump - 06-12-2013 14:17
(06-12-2013 10:31 )terence Wrote: decency and humanity would see him as the latter, a freedom fighter.
This is exactly the language the IRA use.
It's a shame you can't accept the whole picture of a man rather than cherry pic what you want and ignore the negative; he was also a strong supporter of Mugabee. All I am doing is point out historic FACT, he was involved in bombing campaigns, and as I was careful to put, it doesn't matter what the justification for them they are acts of terrorism - the intention is to kill people indiscriminately to make a political point, the point may be worthy, the the action NEVER is.
I have never once argued against any accolade on here, except him being the greatest human to ever like, which quite frankly, is a nonsense statement.
When the biggest movement against apartheid was happening he was in prison, there were many other people who was fighting against it both inside his country and out, not just him alone; he was no Ghandi.
He was, however, a great man and I have never once argued against this, just not has perfect has people on here are claiming.
It's a sad reflection on you that you think there is only one viewpoint, the ones that agree with you.
And I haven't even mentioned Winnie
RE: RIP Nelson Mandela - terence - 06-12-2013 14:23
trolling a nelson mandela r.i.p thread is all i need to know about you mate. keep digging, i'm done feeding you.
RE: RIP Nelson Mandela - cosmonaut - 06-12-2013 14:30
Tribute from Sepp Blatter:
"Nelson Mandela will stay in our hearts forever. The memories of his remarkable fight against oppression, his incredible charisma and his positive values will live on in us and with us."
RE: RIP Nelson Mandela - tony confederate - 06-12-2013 15:30
(06-12-2013 00:48 )tuesdayslump Wrote: He was also a terrorist
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Clearly if you're an extreme right wing racist who regards black South Africans as subhuman, then it's understandable why you regard Nelson Mandela as a terrorist.
If on the other hand you regard the apartheid policy - in which people were treated as inferior beings simply based on the colour of their skin - as fundamentally wrong, then Mandela was surely a freedom fighter in supporting armed insurrection against the violence, random arrests, arbitrary killing policy etc used by the apartheid regime to keep their system in place.
RE: RIP Nelson Mandela - Johnson007 - 06-12-2013 15:31
I never know so many of my friends on facebook knew him........
RE: RIP Nelson Mandela - aaron - 06-12-2013 15:53
27 years in jail and no animosity. Nelson Mandela is everyone's teacher.