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RE: News around the World - Chat and Discussion - elgar1uk - 14-03-2014 00:34

(14-03-2014 00:07 )southlondonphil Wrote:  How would it have got to the Indian Ocean though?

This seems to be the theory:

A former British Airways pilot believes the missing Malaysia Airline Flight MH370 is "thousands of miles" from where search parties are looking.
Alastair Rosenschein, who is now an aviation commentator, spoke on BBC Radio 5 Live to put forward his theory about the aircraft's mysterious disappearance. He claimed the Malaysian jetliner is around 5,000 miles away from where rescuers are looking in the South China Sea having followed a course set by the pilots before the crew passed out from a drop in cabin pressure.

Mr Rosenschein told the BBC that "the aircraft may have suffered a depressurisation. The initial reaction for pilots would be to put on oxygen masks, as without the masks they would have they would have passed out within a few seconds. That would have left the aircraft on autopilot heading in whichever direction they had turned the aircraft on when they realised something was wrong. I'm suggesting that they would have made that heading one going back towards Kuala Lumpur airport. That would put the aircraft finally as it ran out out of fuel, with everybody unconscious on board, somewhere around the mid-Indian Ocean."


RE: News around the World - Chat and Discussion - HannahsPet - 14-03-2014 06:30

Thats possible remember the lear jet the golfer payne stewart died on did the same thing but then its not bdcause transponder was off only 2 ways that happens its turned off or catastrophic power failure which means autopilot would be off as well


RE: News around the World - Chat and Discussion - southlondonphil - 14-03-2014 10:19

(14-03-2014 00:34 )elgar1uk Wrote:  the aircraft may have suffered a depressurisation. The initial reaction for pilots would be to put on oxygen masks, as without the masks they would have they would have passed out within a few seconds. That would have left the aircraft on autopilot heading in whichever direction they had turned the aircraft on when they realised something was wrong.

That doesn't make any sense to me. If there was a depressurisation surely they would have put oxygen masks on first before changing the plane's heading? Alternatively if they had some notice that a problem was developing and decided to turn back they would surely have made radio contact to explain that they were changing their heading?


RE: News around the World - Chat and Discussion - tony confederate - 14-03-2014 11:27

(13-03-2014 13:18 )archibald cockfoster Wrote:  This mystery reminds me of the Sunday Sport's 1995 story - WORLD WAR 2 BOMBER FOUND ON THE MOON.

The year was actually 1988. Here's an extract from the story:

"We can speculate that the plane was hijacked by extraterrestrials and taken to the moon but we have no evidence to support that theory. It really is anybody's guess as to how the airplane got there. U.S. officials have repeatedly declined to comment."


RE: News around the World - Chat and Discussion - space watson - 14-03-2014 12:51

(13-03-2014 17:52 )Tumble_Drier Wrote:  I'm sticking with the fuselage failure theory though.

I thought that from the time the plane was first reported missing, but it looks as though investigators are now favouring the idea that the plane was deliberately flown off course and that it wasn't subject to any catastrophic failure.


RE: News around the World - Chat and Discussion - barracuda - 14-03-2014 13:32

I haven't been following this story too closely so I'm a bit vague on the details. How did Mario Balotelli's name become involved in the story? Is a Mario Balotelli lookalike the suspected hijacker?


RE: News around the World - Chat and Discussion - circles_o_o_o - 14-03-2014 14:03

From the Guardian online :

Quote:1.26pm AEST
The shutdown of two communication systems happened separately, 14 minutes apart, two US officials have told ABC news in the US, indicating a possible deliberate act.

The unnamed investigators believe the data reporting system shut down at 1.07am and the transponder at 1.21am, calling it a “systematic shut down.”

ABC cited a source saying this disputes the theory of a single catastrophic theory.



RE: News around the World - Chat and Discussion - archibald cockfoster - 14-03-2014 14:18

(14-03-2014 13:32 )barracuda Wrote:  Is a Mario Balotelli lookalike the suspected hijacker?

Incredible sources tell me that Elvis is the suspected hijacker.


RE: News around the World - Chat and Discussion - Tumble_Drier - 14-03-2014 15:18

(14-03-2014 10:19 )southlondonphil Wrote:  
(14-03-2014 00:34 )elgar1uk Wrote:  the aircraft may have suffered a depressurisation. The initial reaction for pilots would be to put on oxygen masks, as without the masks they would have they would have passed out within a few seconds. That would have left the aircraft on autopilot heading in whichever direction they had turned the aircraft on when they realised something was wrong.

That doesn't make any sense to me. If there was a depressurisation surely they would have put oxygen masks on first before changing the plane's heading? Alternatively if they had some notice that a problem was developing and decided to turn back they would surely have made radio contact to explain that they were changing their heading?

There are 2 well known examples of crews being disabled by hypoxia. One is Helios Flight 552 and the other is the Learjet carrying golfer Payne Stewart 15 years ago


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash

It's entirely possible that the crew could be confused due to lack of oxygen and change the heading with the autopilot engaged.

Having said that, it seems that the hijacking/deliberate crew action theories are back in play....


RE: News around the World - Chat and Discussion - bigglesworth - 14-03-2014 15:19

It's now looking like a deliberate act to fly the plane on a different heading, but not because of a hijack, which inevitably points the finger at either the pilot or the co-pilot.