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RE: Evelyn (Daytime Queen 2018) - S66 Dayshow Chat & Discussion (Only) - Rake - 21-03-2020 15:27
I guess if someone with the financial muscle to compete with her pervecam regulars dropped some large ones for FTA tease and wankable content then it would happen. The only other way would be for the pervecam regulars to all suddenly run out of money and that wold make it easier for others to compete. As well as requiring Evelyn to seek a wider customer base again through more broad-based shows.
We are living through extra-ordinary times, so who knows...
RE: Evelyn (Daytime Queen 2018) - S66 Dayshow Chat & Discussion (Only) - hawkeye - 21-03-2020 19:45
(21-03-2020 15:27 )Rake Wrote: I guess if someone with the financial muscle to compete with her pervecam regulars dropped some large ones for FTA tease and wankable content then it would happen. The only other way would be for the pervecam regulars to all suddenly run out of money and that wold make it easier for others to compete. As well as requiring Evelyn to seek a wider customer base again through more broad-based shows.
We are living through extra-ordinary times, so who knows...
i seem to recall eve saying on her chat monday evening she was switching of her perve cam to go on main feed to play for all you boys , but no one was there tipping to entice her to stay ,
RE: Evelyn (Daytime Queen 2018) - S66 Dayshow Chat & Discussion (Only) - Rake - 21-03-2020 20:56
(21-03-2020 19:45 )hawkeye Wrote:(21-03-2020 15:27 )Rake Wrote: I guess if someone with the financial muscle to compete with her pervecam regulars dropped some large ones for FTA tease and wankable content then it would happen. The only other way would be for the pervecam regulars to all suddenly run out of money and that wold make it easier for others to compete. As well as requiring Evelyn to seek a wider customer base again through more broad-based shows.
We are living through extra-ordinary times, so who knows...
i seem to recall eve saying on her chat monday evening she was switching of her perve cam to go on main feed to play for all you boys , but no one was there tipping to entice her to stay ,
The problem is, if no-one was watching, no-one would have known. When she was on TV back in 2018 everyone knew the main feed tease started just after 2100 and built up gradually to a climax (in every sense!) that ended at 2200, so they all knew when to tune in and when to pile in with the tips.
RE: Evelyn (Daytime Queen 2018) - S66 Dayshow Chat & Discussion (Only) - ShandyHand - 21-03-2020 22:16
^ Exactly, Eve's first home show climaxed so superbly not only because the tech broke (Eve has successful combined perv and main cam tease more than once in the past) but because a relaxed, accepting, inclusive mood was created out of its failure and was given time to build. This brought the right crowd to attendance. But that crowd is not going to have the patience to sit through hours of head and shoulders or the same denying perve cam angles every shift on the oft chance they might be thrown a bone for a few minutes a shift. Nor should they.
This is the problem with saying something dominates because it's popular on the shows. Its popularity can gradually consolidate, simply because of its dominance, until it becomes the only game in town and, eventually, fewer and fewer 'other' viewers remain to challenge the repititious pattern.
When a babe doesn't make a show of a commitment to variety (even for its own sake sometimes) no one that's looking for that will remain watching. And a less varied stimilus coming from her crowd, will inevitably lead to a more bored babe and more boring shows - to anyone outside the fated inner circle... A clearly visible representation of this: The vibrancy, excitement and potential for engagement inherent in the home cam's babe-specific freechat box disappears in the same process because the babe can, thereafter (as with perv chat), only preach to the converted with her messages there.
A cult has become a stifling clique; one that, instead of promoting a babe, suppresses her potential for extra success.
RE: Evelyn (Daytime Queen 2018) - S66 Dayshow Chat & Discussion (Only) - oof - 21-03-2020 22:45
(21-03-2020 14:12 )ShandyHand Wrote: Where I disagree is in the idea Eve will go paywall only if she gets complaints. This doesn't seem likely to me. If it was beneficial to her she would have been doing paywall onlys in recent weeks. She hasn't so its not. A few outsider complaints are not going to stop Eve doing what works best for her IMO. Weak willed she is not.
I don't think she'll go Paywall-only either. She has hundreds of viewers who watch her on main-feed and jump in behind the paywall when the action seems juiciest (I do that too). Hence all the teasing. What I meant was that when the criticism gets to her, she'll just ignore anyone other than her 4-5 regulars on her perve-cam/phone until the flames go out. She is pretty good at that, ignoring & not getting into a conflict. Of course her regulars help with both, taking over her call/cam streams when needed and getting into fights/arguments for her.
In my opinion the best tactic to get what the crowd wants is: a) gang up on her with tips on the main feed; b) convince one of her regulars. Pretty sure the last naked teasing on main feed happened because one of her mainstay guys asked for it through phone. Conversely, the head-show happened cause one of them wanted a lot of action on cam. And because she took out a new toy and playing with it was profitable on cam, she stayed there rather than come back and please the audience on main feed.
Shit hit the fan though when the complaints came. That ruined everyone's mood. I've watched Evelyn for years and never seen her react positively to complaints/criticism performance-wise.
RE: Evelyn (Daytime Queen 2018) - S66 Dayshow Chat & Discussion (Only) - Chrisst - 22-03-2020 08:06
(21-03-2020 22:45 )oof Wrote:(21-03-2020 14:12 )ShandyHand Wrote: Where I disagree is in the idea Eve will go paywall only if she gets complaints. This doesn't seem likely to me. If it was beneficial to her she would have been doing paywall onlys in recent weeks. She hasn't so its not. A few outsider complaints are not going to stop Eve doing what works best for her IMO. Weak willed she is not.
I don't think she'll go Paywall-only either. She has hundreds of viewers who watch her on main-feed and jump in behind the paywall when the action seems juiciest (I do that too). Hence all the teasing. What I meant was that when the criticism gets to her, she'll just ignore anyone other than her 4-5 regulars on her perve-cam/phone until the flames go out. She is pretty good at that, ignoring & not getting into a conflict. Of course her regulars help with both, taking over her call/cam streams when needed and getting into fights/arguments for her.
In my opinion the best tactic to get what the crowd wants is: a) gang up on her with tips on the main feed; b) convince one of her regulars. Pretty sure the last naked teasing on main feed happened because one of her mainstay guys asked for it through phone. Conversely, the head-show happened cause one of them wanted a lot of action on cam. And because she took out a new toy and playing with it was profitable on cam, she stayed there rather than come back and please the audience on main feed.
Shit hit the fan though when the complaints came. That ruined everyone's mood. I've watched Evelyn for years and never seen her react positively to complaints/criticism performance-wise.
In the chat on Thursday I saw that the subject of Tip Goal came up and to her credit Evelyn
straightaway typed that she'd not done any and asked for suggestions.There was a pause and then all those show tits etc ones came in which she rejected.
I was annoyed with myself because it wasn't until the following day that I realised I should have typed something like 'Anything romantic' because that might have led to something that she'd have been interested in that wouldn't involve more drowning in a bath.
My conclusion is that Evelyn
is interested in new/different things providing she sees a financial result and that, quite rightly she doesn't want to feel that we see her as so much meat.
RE: Evelyn (Daytime Queen 2018) - S66 Dayshow Chat & Discussion (Only) - Rake - 22-03-2020 09:16
Interesting, Chrisst. I wonder what "romantic" goals people would be prepared to tip for though? Probably not many or much unless the goal content was wankable as well as romantic.
She could probably name pretty much any price she wanted for these tip goals, given here in rough ascending order of price:
- Main feed, tits out fully with no hand bra, face in view
- Main feed, legs open, transluscent, narrow gusset panties face in view
- Main feed, tits out fully, open legs and gusset, face in view
- main feed, open legs panties pulled to side, face in view
- and so on you get my drift. Face and full body in view on main feed while sexual content is delivered is what people will pay for. It is just not the same backstage or on pervecam.
I genuinely think that she could realistically set goals into the thousands of pounds, certainly for the first few times she did these. The cost would inevitably have to drift lower, but then she could go further to maintain goal fees by doing arse spreading and fingering arse main feed face fully in view etc. etc.
RE: Evelyn (Daytime Queen 2018) - S66 Dayshow Chat & Discussion (Only) - Chrisst - 22-03-2020 10:11
(22-03-2020 09:16 )Rake Wrote: Interesting, Chrisst. I wonder what "romantic" goals people would be prepared to tip for though? Probably not many or much unless the goal content was wankable as well as romantic.
She could probably name pretty much any price she wanted for these tip goals, given here in rough ascending order of price:
- Main feed, tits out fully with no hand bra, face in view
- Main feed, legs open, transluscent, narrow gusset panties face in view
- Main feed, tits out fully, open legs and gusset, face in view
- main feed, open legs panties pulled to side, face in view
- and so on you get my drift. Face and full body in view on main feed while sexual content is delivered is what people will pay for. It is just not the same backstage or on pervecam.
I genuinely think that she could realistically set goals into the thousands of pounds, certainly for the first few times she did these. The cost would inevitably have to drift lower, but then she could go further to maintain goal fees by doing arse spreading and fingering arse main feed face fully in view etc. etc.
Having read the chat exchange on Thursday (unfortunately I didn't cap it) I'm sure that all of your suggestions are of the type to which she replied 'No way' let alone the arse ones.
Fernanda
is the cleverest person on the scene and that's why she has fans wankable or not and she's on the phone for all but five minutes of her shift.How do we help Evelyn
put a smile on our faces too without the inevitable drift to which you so rightly refer.
RE: Evelyn (Daytime Queen 2018) - S66 Dayshow Chat & Discussion (Only) - Rake - 22-03-2020 10:42
Everyone has a price...
RE: Evelyn (Daytime Queen 2018) - S66 Dayshow Chat & Discussion (Only) - dancesonthesand - 22-03-2020 12:52
With a chat feed specific to Evelyn that is free to post in, and an apparent lack of backstage/paywall-only segments, main feed viewers have arguably never had a better opportunity to have a positive i̶n̶f̶l̶u̶e̶n̶c̶e̶ impact on the shows.
Let the caller(s) have their calls before the big break.
Let the perv-cammers and buzz-tippers perv 'n' buzz after.
But why don't we bring back the main feed extravaganza for the last hour?
From about 8:30pm, strike up a convo in the free chat about something fun (but realistic) you'd like to see and would be willing to tip for, and see how many others watching would be willing to tip at least a fiver each. When it looks like the group has a good offer to make, pitch it to Evelyn.
Don't post in the perv chat; that may be where her attention is, but it wastes credits you could instead put towards a tip later. If she fails to notice the opportunity herself, there's a good chance her wingman gonnacum will alert her to it anyway.
If Evelyn says it's a deal, tip away.
DON'T tip before asking or before it's all agreed to, as this will either; make her feel put on the spot and uncomfortable; get a simple "thx bb" or be ignored altogether if they get lost in a sea of tips from the perv-buzzers already doing their thing.
Once the show is on the road, (if you have enough credits to do so) keep tipping now and then if you like what you see and would like to encourage its continuance until the show's end.
Take my 'boob insurance' for example: if I tip £5 in response to a nip-slip, Eve will thank me and likely be more cautious for the next few minutes. But if that same slip is responded to with tips from 2, 3 or more guys she'll know she's on to something and be more inclined to throw caution to the wind instead.
If the vibratoy is in use, consider using that form of tip as that certainly seems to be Eve's preference. It appears as though the toy can now even be activated when the perv-cam is off.
If you object to buzzing without being able to hear the reaction, then use the plain ol' vanilla tips by all means.
Something Evelyn might want to consider for a main feed-focused final hour like this is setting the phone aside and enabling sound. The chat can be interacted with vocally so her hands are freed up from typing for...other things. She may not get a word in though as she's likely to get buzzed quite a bit!
Not only from regular buzzers who will likely enjoy buzzing even more when it's in tandem with exciting main feed visuals (and if it catches on they may get in the habit of saving credits for these last hours, making what used to be the main part of the show for them merely a warm-up) but folks who were on the fence about activating the toy before will get in on the act too, as rather than feeling like they're paying over the odds just for Eve and her caller to have all the fun, they'll get some sexy sound and vision out of it too.
This all depends on Evelyn's comfort levels of course, but guys can already listen in to the phone calls while she's being buzzed (I doubt a great deal do that though) so main feed with sound for just an hour may not be out of the question. And if it is a hit I'm sure the extra guys buzzing for £5 (or more!) a pop will be just as good (if not way way better) for her as the £1.50 per minute from some of the same small group of usual suspects.
The main feed audience aren't all filthy freeloaders.
Show them the door is open and see how many stop window shopping and actually step inside, tips at the ready.