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RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - Goodfella3041 - 21-01-2022 12:05

(21-01-2022 02:05 )crankshaft Wrote:  Absolutely superb forensic dissection of Boris Johnson’s character…

Great description of Johnson.

Because I’m a sad git, I used to watch his Mayor’s Question Time performances in London, since before Brexit, before Trump, before COVID, etc. And they really were performances. The man is a clown.

That was my realisation that something had changed. That we’d reached a stage where politicians could tell bald-faced lies and make demonstrably false statements … and get away with it. He wasn’t being fact-checked by the media, he wasn’t being challenged by the opposition, and he wasn’t being punished by his own party.

It was annoying, but mostly harmless when he was just wasting money on pointless water cannons, estuary airports, broken buses and garden bridges. But then Brexit came along and while his lies became toxic and populist, he’d already proven to his party that he could survive just about anything — after all, he was a jolly good laugh on HIGNFY.

But as much as I cannot stand the man and hope that bad things happen to him, the blame has to go much wider than him. We were badly failed by the media who almost NEVER gave coverage to even his most egregious lies. The opposition has been toothless and spineless, in response. And the whole Conservative party deserves a decade in the wilderness for inflicting this charlatan on the country.


RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - crankshaft - 22-01-2022 18:40

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I recall watching news highlights of an inquiry into the garden bridge fiasco in City Hall when he was Mayor of London. He faced tough questioning, but he remarkably batted away criticism-laden question after question with a combative, tetchy, and yet utterly deluded, gobsmackingly brazenly dishonest, arrogantly insincere and defiant air of insouciance, pointedly obfuscating the bleedingly obvious failure of his making and waste of something like over £50 million on an ill-conceived, ill-judged, massively wasteful prestige-project, with no sense of shame as to the waste of taxpayer's money incurred.

As a biographer of Winston Churchill, his denial of knowing about the quotation MP David Davis quoted in PMQs on Wednesday - a famous quote by Winston Churchill about Neville Chamberlian (which was a reworking of an Oliver Cromwell quote) sums up the man, as unrepentant when telling bare-faced lies (however, an alternative speculation is that maybe the Clown Prince genuinely didn't know this famous quote because maybe he didn't write the biography himself and had someone else do it for him - adding the labels of charlatan and fraud to the long list of defects that define the man's character to a fault (others being, bounder, cad, rogue and showman as mascarade for the ruthless, calculating bastard he truly is) ).


RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - HannahsPet - 22-01-2022 19:35

Seems it was the then Education Secatary Williamson who threatened the mp with losing the school

https://twitter.com/electpoliticsuk/status/1484956652994445314

not shocking really


RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - southsidestu - 22-01-2022 19:48

It's kind of amazing when you think of it, before Boris The Tories had failed to win a parliamentary majority for 5 out of the last 6 general elections, with the one that they did win being very slim & off the back of a mere 36.9% of the vote. Then Boris comes along & wins the largest number of seats for his party since Thatcher in 83, wins in areas that practically no Tory had gone before like the seat of Bolsover, smashes the so called Red Wall all but securing that they would win the next election after that, giving him an unprecedented chance to reshape The party, Conservatism, The State & the nation as a whole in his own image & he to use his own words, spaffs it up the wall because of a series of parties in "his house"

It's got to be the dumbest reason to effectively kill your premiership stone dead which is simultaneously bitterly depressing as it make a joke out of our country & utterly hilarious because it couldn't of happen to a bigger bellend


RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - The Silent Majority - 22-01-2022 22:56

Interesting profile piece on Sue Grey tonight, on the radio.

She once faced down an IRA gunman, so she's not going to be intimidated by Boris.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0013qtg


RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - crankshaft - 23-01-2022 00:09

The credibility of all these Tory MPs in the cabinet backing him playing for time "waiting for the outcome of Sue Grey's report" is shot in terms of their lack of principle and is a pathetic spectacle, showing themselves to be acting as mouthpieces in a propaganda war defending the indefensible. He broke the rules that he set himself! Gutless cowards the lot of them to defend him and gag themselves from conceding the bleedingly obvious fact that the Clown Prince broke his own rules that he was Commander and Chief over. Him saying that "no one told him the said party in the garden on 20 May 2020 wasn't a work do" is laughable and can only really be a face-saving response that is postponing the inevitable potential damning appraisal of Sue Grey.

This playing for time by Boris is (to quote a Blackadder sketch) like a murder trial where the accused was caught with the murder weapon in his blood soaked hands, & was heard saying "I murdered the bastard", yet is pleading Not-Guilty, awaiting the judgement by the judge*
[* - that's where the analogy ends, since Sue Grey's report is only 'advice' - up to the MPs to take up the baton after her report, which I wouldn't put it past a lot of Tories to whitewash the whole affair]


RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - Charlemagne - 23-01-2022 00:16

And there's now another allegation being made by one of his former Ministers, involving racism, sex discimination and threats.


RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - HannahsPet - 23-01-2022 05:51

wtf the person who made the allegation didnt say who it was but the numpty just outted himself of twitter Tongue Tongue not very bright are they Tongue Tongue


RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - HannahsPet - 23-01-2022 05:59

(22-01-2022 22:56 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  Interesting profile piece on Sue Grey tonight, on the radio.

She once faced down an IRA gunman, so she's not going to be intimidated by Boris.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0013qtg

yeah she ran a pub in newry for a while apparently a gang of IRA members were trying to nick her car and she gave them hell Tongue Tongue


RE: The Dubious World of Boris Johnson - The Silent Majority - 23-01-2022 11:51

Wragg is meeting with the police next week about the blackmail allegations.

Boris says he's seen no evidence of bullying and blackmail.

Well, considering he saw no evidence of a party when he was standing in the middle of it...