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RE: VNTV - General Chat & Discussion - grantorino - 18-11-2018 07:28
do they have marketing budget to get the traffic or are they just relying on the girls and this forum ?
(17-11-2018 16:26 )winsaw Wrote:(17-11-2018 15:45 )grantorino Wrote: like senor said they should have tried to hook up with a platform.
they could have gone on a platform but chose not to due to having very little control over the money they make and an inability to see all the data there channel is generating, it was a very had chose more traffic and less control on rampant or go there own way have full control but less traffic to start with,
RE: VNTV - General Chat & Discussion - SecretAgent - 18-11-2018 09:03
Well what a surprise. Kellie tweeted yesterday that she was thinking about doing some early hours shows 6pm - 2am and asked for thoughts. It’s almost as though she was responding to what her Marketing Director (Winsaw) had said on here.
Oh and just a tip for their Marketing Director. Mocking your customer base on the forum is not a great idea. Neither is pretending you have nothing to do with VNTV as it feels like you are taking the piss.
RE: VNTV - General Chat & Discussion - winsaw - 18-11-2018 10:43
^^ I don't really get what u have got against me or vntv mate, all I have tried to do is keep this forum informed on what's going on and vntv have been very helpful in giving me info,
To be fair vntv and this forum have had the type of interaction that can only dream of with bs or 66, I apologize if u think I have mocked u in some way mate that was not what I wanted at all,
Kellie just posting the same info on Twitter that I was told about and put on here that's all just helping vntv get info on there shows out there so people can watch them,
I would hope that we can both agree that having another babeshow is a good thing and that anything positive we can all do to help is a good thing,
RE: VNTV - General Chat & Discussion - lukebrown06 - 18-11-2018 12:20
Well winsaw you mocked me for suggesting they should have done some research before launching.
Winsaw “some of the stuff u say really is ... think about it what u say makes no sense dude”.
I will say it again. Unless they are paying you for this, they are taking the piss out of you. You are their spokesperson and have to defend every stupid decision they make. They could create an account and interact with us if they wanted but they don’t want to clearly.
Also back to Grantorino point. No they have no marketing budget. They us twitter but the stuff they post is very heavily editors pics and they rely on suckers like Winsaw and co to cap them, which they retweet.
Also just look at their twitter timeline they NEVER interact (reply) with viewers (only cappers)... they don’t interact with them be cause they get no messages. Which signals to me that no one knows/cares about the shows. Correction: they do get a couple of messages but they aren’t Positive so they ignore them.
RE: VNTV - General Chat & Discussion - Superhans95 - 18-11-2018 13:13
I think everyone is unfairly getting on winsaw's case here. He is just desperate to help get some much needed competition in this industry, however I believe they have been using your well-intended offer of help and then some. Businesses pay GOOD money to find out about their customers and they have someone providing much of this information for free and give off the impression they lack organisation and structure (launching the show with no idea how it's going to run, when it's going to be on etc) to use your information effectively.
If you didn't use this forum you would have no idea it exists, they need to get on rampant
RE: VNTV - General Chat & Discussion - winsaw - 18-11-2018 13:18
well to be fair Luke are the one being insulting calling me a sucker, why do that ?, if i came over to you like that i apologize,
every thing you post is just so negative it comes over as you wanting vntv to fail, can i ask is that what you want please,
i would say vntv interact with us on twitter far more than any other channel, can you give me any examples of the other shows using there twitter like you talk about please,
if i may could i please ask about some of the stuff in your earlier post,
you talk about vntv not going on ram____ yet you also have said ram____ would not touch them,
also you seam to know alot about the 2 people ? running vntv and about them at RLC can you explain what u mean please and what its got to do with vntv please,
i hope you will answer this questions
RE: VNTV - General Chat & Discussion - Bondless - 18-11-2018 13:50
(17-11-2018 16:26 )winsaw Wrote:(17-11-2018 15:45 )grantorino Wrote: like senor said they should have tried to hook up with a platform.
they could have gone on a platform but chose not to due to having very little control over the money they make and an inability to see all the data there channel is generating, it was a very had chose more traffic and less control on rampant or go there own way have full control but less traffic to start with,
@winsaw What do you mean about having very little control over the money that they make but having more traffic by going with a platform like Rampant?
Right now they are relying on social media and this forum to promote their channel. A channel that requires you to have a subscription! It seems that they are doing the subscription thing so that they can get the revenue from calls. Babestation and Studio 66 have thier own sites with calling packages available and are still on Rampant TV. That's what VNTV should do. They could advertise their site/ packages on their streams (when on Rampant TV) and make it more appealing for viewers to sign up there rather than use Rampant/ any other platform. That would be a good way of generating an audience while directing them to the source.
Then say 3 months, 6 months or a year later they could do away with Rampant TV and stand alone.
We've all seen plenty of channels startup and try run on their own platform. I can't recall any that is still around that isn't on TV. The owners should know all of this having been involved with Red Light TV.
Also, has anyone figured out how to make video caps of the streams?
RE: VNTV - General Chat & Discussion - lukebrown06 - 18-11-2018 14:25
(18-11-2018 13:18 )winsaw Wrote: well to be fair Luke are the one being insulting calling me a sucker, why do that ?, if i came over to you like that i apologize,
I apologise for calling you a sucker.
As for answering your (their) questions. No I won’t. Everything I’ve said is from info in the public domain. Also buy not answering their questions I know it will piss them.
Also, I assume that Maxie will never be appearing now as she split up with her fella, who is the 4th owner.
RE: VNTV - General Chat & Discussion - winsaw - 18-11-2018 14:42
^^ was my questions i really do want to know why you come across as wanting vntv to fail,
i get you not answering point 2 because u cant back up what u say but thats fine, twitter is easy for all to see so people can see which channels interact,
point 3 i really hoped you would answer as you have been contradicting your self by saying they should be on ram but then saying ram would not have them how can you know that unless you have some form of contact with ram, its interesting as it could explain where u are coming from on some of what u post thats all,
also on point 3 as far as i am aware there is nothing n the public domain about the owners of vntv and what they had done at rlc, by bringing up a 4th owner you clearly have some inside info so would be nice of you to give that info out instrad of just little bits, you are clearly a smart man who knows lots so why not help others on the forum with you knowledge,
RE: VNTV - General Chat & Discussion - aaron - 18-11-2018 14:45
(18-11-2018 13:13 )Superhans95 Wrote: If you didn't use this forum you would have no idea it exists
But how many of their potential callers would you say are unaware of and never make use of this forum?
I doubt that we're the backwater that you seem to be implying. I suspect the very opposite to be true.