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RE: General Election Vote - gunnar - 13-05-2015 15:18
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/11436320/What-if-pensioners-paid-the-bedroom-tax.html
^This is an interesting article and where the nasty party might go next.
RE: General Election Vote - ShandyHand - 13-05-2015 15:32
Worth noting, I think, that the map above is based on data from before the election. It is not a map of Ukip's vote this time round.
The April article in the Telegraph contrasts it directly with a map of UK population born abroad to try and answer these questions:
"Do those who oppose immigration actually know any immigrants?
And, conversely, do those who sing its praises ever feel its effects?
...The first group accuse their opponents of being effete metropolitan liberals, out of touch with the concerns of the working classes. The second group says the first are driven by ignorance and intolerance."
![[Image: Ukip_maps_2_3268290b.jpg]](http://s11.postimg.cc/h5m65qpoz/Ukip_maps_2_3268290b.jpg)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11539388/Mapped-where-is-Ukips-support-strongest-Where-there-are-no-immigrants.html
RE: General Election Vote - ShandyHand - 13-05-2015 16:31
Usually I try not to follow my own posts but I thought this might add something while we are doing illustrations and discussing who are targets of the political blame game and where the next cuts will fall...
I've always found it interesting that all we seem to hear criticised in the UK welfare budget are JSA (or whatever it comes under these days), housing benefit and so on. When we look at a breakdown of the benefit budget these are pretty small fry compared to the pensions behemoth.
![[Image: Public_spending_on_Benefi_001.jpg]](http://s11.postimg.cc/z3zvzm0ib/Public_spending_on_Benefi_001.jpg)
(These are 2011/12 figures - the latest I could find illustrated nicely online. The general comparative sizes should be much the same three years on.)
RE: General Election Vote - Whynot - 13-05-2015 16:38
^
Yeah but u forget the vast majority of pensioners vote and vote tory.... therefore they must not feel the force of any cuts whatsoever!! #Onenation we are all in this together... but u suffer more
RE: General Election Vote - gunnar - 13-05-2015 16:42
^Of course Cameron & cronies won't suffer at all because most of them are millionaires or near to to it.
It would be interesting if they did attack something like the massive pension pot and did target pensioners. I wonder how long there government would remain in power then.
RE: General Election Vote - ShandyHand - 13-05-2015 16:50
(13-05-2015 16:38 )Whynot Wrote: Yeah but u forget the vast majority of pensioners vote and vote tory.... therefore they must not feel the force of any cuts whatsoever!! #Onenation we are all in this together... but u suffer more
Oh I didn't forget. I was not trying to suggest where the cuts should come but to ask why the focus was normally elsewhere. Best to let people make up there own minds on such things I think.
RE: General Election Vote - gunnar - 13-05-2015 16:54
^I can imagine mister potato head Cameron trying to justify by talking about the war generation,we're all in it together etc etc.
Wouldn't be surprised if a tory think tank somewhere is generating ideas of compulsory euthanasia for pensioners when they reach a certain age. Of course it would only apply to poor pensioners because they would be seen as the biggest drain on the system.
RE: General Election Vote - CIA Snooper - 13-05-2015 18:11
(10-05-2015 21:05 )Doddle Wrote: What do you think he's been doing for the past 60 years (not counting the comedy and the failed romance)? His environmental attitudes are pretty well known, though maybe you don't count that as politics? Then there's that whole thing about him writing nasty letters to previous governments.
Charles is more likely to get his hands dirty if he gets to be King than you clearly realise.
Quite right.
10 things that Prince Charles wrote letters about.
1. The issue of Lynx helicopters performing poorly in high temperatures.
2. He expressed concern about the plight of the Patagonian Toothfish.
3. The controversial culling of badgers to stop TB spreading to cows.
4. His letters being subject to a future Freedom of Information request.
5. He wanted the Culture Secretary to treat Antarctica as British territory.
6. Plans for herbal medicine, acupuncture and complementary medicine.
7. The closure of Armagh Gaol and what could be done with the site.
8. The dominant position of the big supermarkets and the effect on prices.
9. The sale of NHS properties and worries about wider building projects.
10. He wanted to address a gap in the teaching of English and History.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32723652
RE: General Election Vote - lovebabes56 - 13-05-2015 18:45
^What was it that he described as a carbuncle again back in 80's or 90's?
RE: General Election Vote - HannahsPet - 13-05-2015 18:48
most modern architecture
great column
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the-guardian-exposes-prince-charles-as-a-guardianista/16975#.VVONz5MqG72
Saying that basically the guardian spent 10 years trying to get these letter to be released only to shows that his views on the world are similar to the views of the Guardian
