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RE: Babestation24 - meisterlampe1989 - 29-08-2018 16:15
(28-08-2018 22:17 )Manuel Wrote: And yes, some girls don't use the pervcam. I suppose they just don't want to show their pussies/ass. Sindy never does, for instance (if I am not mistaken). Which is quite surprising, considering she is not exactly shy when it comes to show nudity (best performer on BS24 imo).
I don´t think that any performer on a show like this has a problem with showing "everything". All of the girls are Camgirls on other hardcore Websites or even performers in porn. I might say some of them are doing pretty rough stuff. Sweet Amira did piss porn.
The makers of the show are responsible for what the girls show.
The reason why only one girl per show does the Pervcam and the other girl is so tame is that the other girl is not supposed to take attention from the Pervcam performer. This sometimes is absurd when a girl who previously did very hot things doesn´t even take her panties off. Like Paula Rowe last Sunday. But I already pointed this out.
This show has many problems and they added another one with the Pervcam. I don´t even think that the Pervcam in itself is very interesting. The internet is full of the most perverse porn. Why are people paying to see a vagina?And like this? Without touching. Often like on a gynocologists chair. What is sexy about this?
Yes. Channels like this exist to generate money. We have to be honest and realistic about this. To search for new revenue streams is business as usual. But when they make their TV show for the public boring they lose their base of the people who are willing to pay for their "extra services". If the base is smaller there are less people who will pay. Less people who call. Less revenue. At a point in future they can´t pay their running costs. This happened to Eurotic TV.
I have many other pet peeves.
1. The lighting is so aseptic and sterile. Like in a hospital. Why not dim the light a bit. A few candles. A bit of dry ice steam. Red neon light.
2. Stop with the "hand pussy". Where is the point in spreading your legs when you can´t show it? What is sexy about that? I think it is way more sexy to see a bit of the pussy from above or at an angle.
3. They need more "themed" shows. Everyday on a bed or on a couch in the same locations... this is so boring. They did this in the early stages of the show. With oil shows in swimming pools and so on.
4. Get wireless headsets instead of this stupid phones. The girls can´t move.
The Problem is: They will never do this. Because this means effort and investment. And that means: Costs.
This is why I really like Lejla. In spite of these obvious flaws of the show she is trying hard to make the show interesting. She is always nice. She always has a smile on her face. And you notice that she really has fun to do this.
RE: Babestation24 - marshall123 - 29-08-2018 16:17
Hi everyone I was just wondering if there is a way to use pervcam without signing up on there website is there a English site with there cams on, i only have a rampant. tv gold account is there a way to watch them on there thanks
RE: Babestation24 - DB83 - 29-08-2018 20:31
^^ To answer the above. At present No !
In fact I made this point when the pervcam option started. They use the same system that BSUK uses and, quite likely, the same servers. The only difference is the coinage but that varies on all sites. Even so it would be quite easy, and income generating, to incorporate the cam in to the BS sites.
@Andreas
Some very valid comments above. However when the cam option started I think it was the first Saturday when Lejla and Paula Rowe were on together that both girls used the same cam with different accounts. So by restricting it to one girl, if the other is up to it and some will not be, smells of laziness on the part of the production team.
Your earlier piece was also an interesting read. One thing you did not cover and which is quite applicable is the protection of children and I believe Germany has a very strong record in this matter. Maybe I misread or mis-translate the message on the top right hand corner of the tv broadcast. My translater says that "Jugendefahrdence Inhalte" = Jeuvenille Content which is the exact opposite of what it actually is
I do not think that Germany would allow full nudity before 12 CET. They effectively stopped Eurotic in this respect once the EU regulations were in place. Noticable that up to 2008( and that is the relevant date AFAIK) it was all go at any part of the day.
Of course regulators do not usually watch this stuff. They only act upon complaint. Usually from a rival broadcaster (or some mum who has caught her little boy having a 'handy-shandy'
). Of course, right now, BS24 has no effective rival.
RE: Babestation24 - marshall123 - 29-08-2018 20:38
hi DB83 thanks for answering my question hopefully at some point in the future they will be available on babe station or rampant
RE: Babestation24 - meisterlampe1989 - 29-08-2018 22:01
(29-08-2018 20:31 )DB83 Wrote: Your earlier piece was also an interesting read. One thing you did not cover and which is quite applicable is the protection of children and I believe Germany has a very strong record in this matter.
This is a bit ambiguous in Germany. Violence is a problem, nudity not so much.
Protection of Youth in Germany is very bureaucratic and complicated.
Germany is the only country in the world that has an "Index". This effectively means that there are 2 versions of 18+.
A movie gets rated in Germany by the FSK (USK for Videogames). This is our Version of the BBFC. The FSK is not governmental. If they give a rating you can show it on TV (18+ like I said after 11 PM) , you can advertise in public, sell it in normal stores.
But the FSK can deny a rating. When they think a movie or videogame is very harmful for people under 18 or they think it even contravenes criminal law, like our Law againt violence grlorification, they can do this.
Then the movie or videogame "goes" to the BPJM. This is a federal governmental institution. There is a council (composited out of social groups) which has 3 Options.
1. They say that it is not very harmful. Then it goes back to the FSK (or USK) and then they have to rate it.
2. If they rule that it is very harmful for people under 18 then they set it on a list. "Liste A" means that this movie or videogame can´t be shown on TV. You can only sell and advertise it in places which are restricted to persons over 18. Porn is automatically "Liste A".
3. If they rule that it contravenes criminal law they set it on "Liste B". This means that a district attorney and a judge can ban it colmpletely. But even this is a bit complicated in Germany. "Banned" only means that you can´t sell or buy it. But you can own it and watch it at home. The only thing in Germany which is really banned from owning is child pornography and real snuff movies.
So this is just the system for rating videogames and movies
Every movie and (which is relevant for Babestation24) every show on German TV gets rated by the FSF. This is the FSK for TV.
The whole thing gets supervised on the other hand by 2 Institutions. The KJM and the "Landesmedienanstalten". But that is not complicated enough. There are 16 "Landesmedienanstalten". One for every german state.
The KJM has no authority. They exist only to indicate violation of rules on TV. The "Landesmedienstalten" have authority and can punish Channels.
As I said every german channel has a person specifically for satisfying the rules. They are in constant contact with the "Landesmeidenanstalten".
You see: The whole process is highly regulated.
(29-08-2018 20:31 )DB83 Wrote: Maybe I misread or mis-translate the message on the top right hand corner of the tv broadcast. My translater says that "Jugendefahrdence Inhalte" = Jeuvenille Content which is the exact opposite of what it actually is
Wrong translation. "Jugendgefährdende Inhalte" means that the show is harmful for juveniles. It´s a warning. Like your "Viewers discretion is advised".
Technically this is the wrong term. Because as you learned above harmful content is on the "Index Liste A " which is not allowed on TV. For "normal" 18+ stuff German bureaucracy has another fine word: Jugendbeeinträchtigende Inhalte (Youth Impairing Content). This is allowed on TV. But this is so complicated that it is normal that even producers of TV shows don´t know the right term.
(29-08-2018 20:31 )DB83 Wrote: I do not think that Germany would allow full nudity before 12 CET. They effectively stopped Eurotic in this respect once the EU regulations were in place. Noticable that up to 2008( and that is the relevant date AFAIK) it was all go at any part of the day.
As I said and you can trust me: There are no restrictions concerning which bodypart you can show at a certain time. Context is everything.
Of course you can´t show full frontal nudity in a sexual context in daytime like Eurotic TV did. Of course this gets restricted even in Germany.
Eurotic TV showed full frontal from 11 PM on in Germany. I think they changed the rules again and to 12 PM after they decided to follow english Rules.
And I bet that Eurotic TV could have shown the full frontal nudity even earlier at 10PM because it was very aesthetic and would be rated 16+ in Germany. But they were a bit too cautious I think.
Germany is very liberal concerning sex and nudity. Only hardcore porn is banned on TV. So the most peculiar censoring decisions are made by the channel makers themeselves.
I don´t know why I wrote all this stuff... i was bored
RE: Babestation24 - Manuel - 29-08-2018 22:33
(29-08-2018 16:15 )meisterlampe1989 Wrote: I don´t think that any performer on a show like this has a problem with showing "everything". All of the girls are Camgirls on other hardcore Websites or even performers in porn. I might say some of them are doing pretty rough stuff.
The reason why only one girl per show does the Pervcam and the other girl is so tame is that the other girl is not supposed to take attention from the Pervcam performer. T
you may be right. But it is curious that some of the girls never use the pervcam. This is why I think some of them just don't want to do that.
RE: Babestation24 - meisterlampe1989 - 29-08-2018 23:07
(29-08-2018 22:33 )Manuel Wrote: you may be right. But it is curious that some of the girls never use the pervcam. This is why I think some of them just don't want to do that.
Yes. This could be right. But this doesn't explain why some girls who did it before don't do it.
For instance Samy Fox today. She did the Pervcam before. But today? Nothing.
Like I said: Totally erratic.
RE: Babestation24 - bazzae123 - 30-08-2018 18:56
And I never saw her get her knickers off last night either
RE: Babestation24 - DB83 - 30-08-2018 21:27
Last night easily summed up the 'charm' of these shows as I was often reminded by my Eurotic friends "No two shows are ever alike"
Of course they do this deliberately since it, believe it or not, will attract the caller simply to ask for something they will not get on the night but might do next time around.
And tonight Tyra is up for it practically within 10 minutes of the show start.
It was asked on the webchat a few days ago if she is pregnant. It sure looks so and if true the channel will lose a top performer for some time.
RE: Babestation24 - meisterlampe1989 - 02-09-2018 18:04
(29-08-2018 23:07 )meisterlampe1989 Wrote:(29-08-2018 22:33 )Manuel Wrote: you may be right. But it is curious that some of the girls never use the pervcam. This is why I think some of them just don't want to do that.
Yes. This could be right. But this doesn't explain why some girls who did it before don't do it.
For instance Samy Fox today. She did the Pervcam before. But today? Nothing.
Like I said: Totally erratic.
I have a new theory on that. Maybe they are paying the girls who are doing the Pervcam extra money. But they can´t afford to pay all the girls to do it. So there are only 1 or 2 girls. At the moment it seems to be Sydney Pearl and (the obviously pregnant, congratulations on that) Tyra Kadney.
The reason why the other girls - like the last two days - don´t even take off their pants is to make the Pervcam more interesting and special. At least this is my guess to make a little sense of what happened to the show over the last month.
If they continue to do such boring shows I think they will soon perish from TV.
Yesterday they had a special guest - RoxxyX. Maybe the most famous Camgirl in Germany at the moment. She is regularly on TV in Germany in documentaries about the Sex Business and such things.
They did nothing special. Laying on bed, wagging the phone, keeping the pants on.
Maybe the time of Babe Channels are over. In Germany it will be soon.
And yes: Tyra is on the schedule tonight and she is maybe the best girl at the moment. She will take her pants off tonight because she is on Pervcam. But I already said: I think this is not sexy and the show will lose watchers from TV.
Like me. I am constantly asking myself why I am watching this crap. Sorry.
Not 3 months ago Nika and Camgirl where dancing completely naked through the studio. Without covering anything. Scroll back a bit and you can see a video of that in this thread.
This decline in quality over the past months is staggering and ridiculous.