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RE: Wii U - supermario1983 - 26-11-2012 20:40
(26-11-2012 20:21 )Larny Boy Wrote: I have all the old consoles too, gathering dust in the loft lol. The SNES was amazing in its day. The N64 was a piece of overpriced junk, the gamecube was a total failure and the Wii really was just a one trick gimmick. Yes it sold like hot cakes but it was nothing but a kids machine regardless of any adult based titles they tried to release, same will go for the Wii U.
So again I stand by my point. I guess if the Wii U had the hardware to blow the current gen away then it might just be worth it, but it doesn't have the power. If the PS3 and 360 didn't exist then the Wii U would be the most awesome console ever created, but thats not the case. Its a machine invented to compete with the current gen, not outshine them, and seeing as the current gen is around 6-7 years old now we deserve something a lot more impressive for £300.
the overpriced piece of junk you're referring to had some of the most revolutionary games in video games history (super mario 64, goldeneye, zelda ocarina of time etc) which has inspired many video game companies to recreate similar games since then.
the failure you're referring to had some of the highest rated games of all time which are still getting sequels to this day.
the one trick gimmick you're referring to became so successful that sony and microsoft decided to copy it to attract the same kind of audience the wii had.
RE: Wii U - Larny Boy - 26-11-2012 21:40
All consoles have a couple of classic games, look at the Dreamcast for proof of that. The N64 got pissed on by the PS1 remember and Nintendo should have never stuck with out dated cartridges. The Wii is a one trick pony, thats not debatable, and sony and MS only brought out comparable add ons to cater for the casual market. I doubt very much they've made much profit from it.
RE: Wii U - *Kal-El* - 26-11-2012 22:28
Let get this straight the Wii is a one trick pony and they never made any profit from it here are the cold hard facts:
According to the NPD Group, the Wii sold more units in the United States than the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 combined in the first half of 2007.[64] This lead is even larger in the Japanese market, where it currently leads in total sales (having outsold both consoles by factors of 2:1[65] to 6:1[66] nearly every week from its launch to November 2007).[67] In Australia the Wii broke the record set by the Xbox 360 and became the fastest-selling game console in Australian history.[68]
On September 12, 2007, the Financial Times reported that the Wii had surpassed the Xbox 360 (released a year earlier) and had become market leader in home-console sales for the current generation, based on sales figures from Enterbrain, NPD Group and GfK. This was the first time a Nintendo console led its generation in sales since the Super Nintendo Entertainment System.[69]
On July 11, 2007, Nintendo warned that the Wii would remain in short supply throughout that calendar year.[70] In December, Reggie Fils-Aime revealed that Nintendo was producing approximately 1.8 million Wii consoles each month.[71] Some UK stores still had a shortage of consoles as of March 2007,[72] demand still outpaced supply in the United States as of June 2007,[73] and the console was "selling out almost as quickly as it hits retail shelves" in Canada as of April 2008.[74][75] In October 2008 Nintendo announced that between October and December the Wii would have its North American supplies increased considerably from 2007 levels,[76] while producing 2.4 million Wii units a month worldwide (compared to 1.6 million per month in 2007).[77]
In 2007 the Wii was the second-best-selling game console (behind the Nintendo DS) in the US and Japan (with 6.29 million and 3,629,361 units sold respectively), according to the NPD Group and Enterbrain.[78][79][80][81][82] That same year the Wii outsold the PlayStation 3 by a 3:1 ratio in Japan; the Xbox 360 sold 257,841 units in that region that year, according to Enterbrain.[83][84] In Europe the Wii sold 0.7 million units in 2006 and 4.8 million in 2007, according to estimates by Electronic Arts.[85][86] In 2008, the Wii was the best-selling home console in Japan with 2,908,342 units sold, according to Enterbrain.[82][87][88] Before the release of the NPD Group's video-game statistics for January 2008 the Wii had been ahead of the Xbox 360 and PS3 in US sales in most months since the Wii and PS3 were released, according to data by the NPD Group.[89] In the United States the Wii sold 10.9 million units by July 1, 2008, making it the leader in current-generation home console sales according to the NPD Group (and surpassing the Xbox 360).[90][91][92] As of November 1, 2008 the Wii had sold 13.4 million units in the US (almost two million more than Xbox 360 and over twice the number of PlayStation 3 units sold), according to the NPD Group.[93]
In Japan the Wii surpassed the number of Nintendo GameCube units sold by January 2008;[80] it sold 7,526,821 units as of December 28, 2008, according to Enterbrain.[87][94] According to the NPD Group the Wii surpassed the Xbox 360 to become the best-selling "next-generation" home video-game console in Canada (with 813,000 units sold by April 1, 2008), and was the best-selling home console for 13 of the previous 17 months.[74][75] In the first six months of 2008 the Wii sold 318,000 units in Canada, outselling its nearest competitor (the PlayStation 3) almost 2:1.[95] According to the NPD Group the Wii had sold a total of 1,060,000 units in Canada as of August 1, 2008, making it the first current-generation home console to surpass the million-unit mark in that country. In the first seven months of 2008 the Wii outsold the PS3 and the Xbox 360 combined, with 376,000 units sold in Canada.[96] In the United Kingdom the Wii leads in current-generation home-console sales with 4.9 million units sold as of January 3, 2009, according to GfK Chart-Track.[97][98] On March 25, 2009 at the Game Developers Conference, Satoru Iwata said that worldwide shipments of Wii had reached 50 million.[99]
While Microsoft and Sony have experienced losses producing their consoles in the hopes of making a long-term profit on software sales, Nintendo reportedly has optimized production costs to obtain a significant profit margin with each Wii unit sold.[100] On September 17, 2007 the Financial Times reported that the direct profit per Wii sold may vary, from $13 in Japan to $49 in the United States and $79 in Europe.[101] On December 2, 2008, Forbes reported that Nintendo made a $6 operating profit per Wii unit sold.[102]
On May 7, 2009, Nintendo reported increased operating profits for its fiscal year (April 1, 2008 – March 31, 2009) and a rise in sales—record earnings, compared to the previous year. Kenji Hall of BusinessWeek called the company "a bright spot in an otherwise dismal Japanese tech sector", citing the unique qualities of the Wii and DSi.
Nintendo were in profit and breaking records against the other consoles this coming from respected sources from the Financial Times and NPD Group: is a leading North American market research company. The NPD Group consistently ranks among the top 25 market research companies in the independent Honomichl Top 50 report, which the media and the research industry acknowledge as a credible source of information on the market research industry. For 2010, NPD ranked 10th according to this report. NPD was founded in 1967 and provides consumer and retail information to manufacturers and retailers. Not bad for a company thats a so called a one trick pony. Secondly was a thread for and about the Wii U so i have no idea why the N64 are even being bought into this thread in the first place.
As for the N64 theres records speak for themselves:
The console was first released in Japan on June 23, 1996.[1] The North American version of the Nintendo 64 officially launched on September 29, 1996 with 500,000 units sold in the first four months,[21] while the PAL version was released in Europe on March 1, 1997.[1] As of December 31, 2009, the N64 had sold 5.54 million units in Japan, 20.63 million in the Americas, and 6.75 million in other regions, for a total of 32.93 million units.
as well as that it the classic games of Super Mario 64, Wave race 64, 1080 degree snow boarding, Goldeneye, pilot wings 64, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time which by the way been voted one of best games of all time the highest mark it got was a 10/10 and lowest 9.5/10 thats telling you something about the machine. The joypad had a rumble pack add which the sony machines never had but a rubble feature was added on the DualShock Analog Controller (SCPH-1200) and then the next model on the DualShock 2 pad.
RE: Wii U - supermario1983 - 26-11-2012 22:31
(26-11-2012 21:40 )Larny Boy Wrote: All consoles have a couple of classic games, look at the Dreamcast for proof of that. The N64 got pissed on by the PS1 remember and Nintendo should have never stuck with out dated cartridges. The Wii is a one trick pony, thats not debatable, and sony and MS only brought out comparable add ons to cater for the casual market. I doubt very much they've made much profit from it.
ok look i get it you hate nintendo, that's fine. what isn't fine is the fact that you constantly need to bash not only it's games and consoles but it's fans aswell. what exactly are you trying to achieve with these arguments? are you trying to get us to hate nintendo too and to stop us from from buying their consoles? if that's your goal then you're gonna fail because there's nothing you can say that'll change my mind or any other nintendo fans's mind. if that's not the reason then ask yourself why do i need to bash a certain company all the time. is your life so sad and pathetic that you need to annoy and piss off other people to feel good about yourself? you really need to grow up.
RE: Wii U - *Kal-El* - 26-11-2012 22:40
The Wii U has sold over 400,000 units in its first week of sales, according to Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime. In an interview with Cnet, Fils-Aime revealed that shoppers took home 700,000 Nintendo consoles in the last week, with the original Wii enjoying strong sales of 300,000. "Wii U is essentially sold out of retail and we are doing our best to continually replenish stock," said Fils-Aime.
RE: Wii U - *Kal-El* - 26-11-2012 22:46
I'll be standing by all the consoles because all of them have a place and have something to bring to table which will be good for all us gamers in the long run.
RE: Wii U - *Kal-El* - 26-11-2012 23:01
The console to date that Nintendo have made that was a flop was the virtual boy.
RE: Wii U - supermario1983 - 28-11-2012 15:05
got an email today that says the wii u i pre-ordered has been shipped. yipee!!
RE: Wii U - Larny Boy - 28-11-2012 22:04
Kalel I cant be bothered to read all of that as I never actually said the Wii didn't make a profit, so if you read my comments you'll see your argument is invalid. Super-mario you seem bitter as you're obviously offended that I'm rightly slating your beloved kiddies consoles, which makes me question if you're actually old enough to be on an over 18's adult based forum lol. So my final comments on this matter are I wish you both a lovely time with your new toys, I'll be sticking to adult based machines and lets see how well the Wii U stands up against the big two's new consoles in about a years time. My prediction is the Wii U will be sitting in the cupboard gathering dust with its older brother haha
RE: Wii U - iloveMegan - 28-11-2012 22:27
(28-11-2012 22:04 )Larny Boy Wrote: I'll be sticking to adult based machines
What makes you consider the PS3 and Xbox 360 "adult based machines" compared to the Wii and Wii U? Both Wii consoles have their share of adult games, Mad World, No More Heroes, ZombiU etc, while the other two have plenty of kid friendly games.