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RE: Conservative Leadership Contest - Doddle - 03-07-2016 21:41
(03-07-2016 13:09 )Charlemagne Wrote: OMG. We're going to end up with a Maggie clone as PM.Luckily, when they made the first one, they lost the mould. They can delude themselves that the experiment can be recreated, but like Frankenstein's monster, it will all end badly
RE: Conservative Leadership Contest - HannahsPet - 03-07-2016 21:44
Well those Northerners will all be regretting it when we get Thatcher Mark 2
RE: Conservative Leadership Contest - mikedafc - 04-07-2016 02:03
Hope Theresa May becomes next Conservative Leader and Prime Minister
RE: Conservative Leadership Contest - Glenn Miller - 04-07-2016 11:21
She's supposed to be the moderate candidate, but even May refuses to rule out sending all EU migrants home.
RE: Conservative Leadership Contest - terence - 04-07-2016 11:29
andrea leadsom kinda killing it atm. (if you like that sorta thing!)
RE: Conservative Leadership Contest - ShandyHand - 04-07-2016 11:57
^ She's the one that proclaims herself as the new Maggie and refused to deny that Farage could be part of the Brexit negotiations on TV yesterday. Another moderate naturally!
RE: Conservative Leadership Contest - SecretAgent - 04-07-2016 12:02
(04-07-2016 11:57 )ShandyHand Wrote: ^ She's the one that proclaims herself as the new Maggie and refused to deny that Farage could be part of the Brexit negotiations on TV yesterday. Another moderate naturally!
And being backed by the UKIP donor Aaron Banks.
RE: Conservative Leadership Contest - SecretAgent - 04-07-2016 12:05
(04-07-2016 11:21 )Glenn Miller Wrote: She's supposed to be the moderate candidate, but even May refuses to rule out sending all EU migrants home.
It's a negotiating position. None of the candidates is saying send them home but they need to ensure that UK citizens living in the EU are also considered.
RE: Conservative Leadership Contest - Glenn Miller - 04-07-2016 12:43
According to Migration Watch website, UK citizens living in the EU are safe anyway, as they are protected by EU law.
Any action to remove British citizens currently in EU member states would directly contravene Article 19 of the EU’s Charter of Fundamental Rights, under which collective expulsions are prohibited. The collective expulsion of foreigners is also forbidden under protocol four of the European Convention on Human Rights, Article four of which reads: “Collective expulsion of aliens is prohibited.”
International law also guarantee the rights of Britons living and working in EU member states - and EU citizens living in the UK - although Conservative leadership candidates don't appear to realise this.
Under a principle enshrined by the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969, withdrawal from a treaty releases the parties from any future obligations to each other but does not affect any rights or obligations acquired under it before withdrawal.
The Daily Telegraph has been saying the same thing.
British expats have nothing to fear from Brexit. Despite warnings and fears, Britons living elsewhere in the EU would be largely unaffected in the UK withdraws from the EU, as the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969 would come into play. It contains articles that are based on ‘acquired rights’, which individuals build up over time and hold despite any changes in future treaties enacted by their nation.
Withdrawing from a treaty releases the parties from any future obligations, but does not affect any rights or obligations acquired under it before withdrawal. Therefore, freedom of movement rights would be honoured for all those citizens who reside in other EU nations prior to any Treaty changes. This works both ways, and would prevent any government from deporting migrants who came to the UK under the old system.
RE: Conservative Leadership Contest - Bandwagon - 04-07-2016 22:17
Of the available candidates I think I prefer Leadsom, she was pro Brexit so makes more sense to me.
I dont care about her past, all politicians are shady bastards so it matters not.