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RE: The State of the UK Union in 2022 - hornball - 15-02-2023 21:48
Like her or loathe her, she had a belief that Scotland would be better off outside the UK, and despite everything thrown at her, never deviated from that core belief and the campaigning to back it up!
Personally, I still think that it doesn't quite feel democratic to have an English Parliament and an English PM (more often than not regardless of party - yes G Brown for 5 mins but he was parachuted - undemocratic in itself - and others likewise) deciding whether a nation can or cannot stay within the UK. In addition, I find it rather ironic, as I firmly believe that at the first opportunity, that same PM (or his successor) will wave goodbye to us in NI if the population/votes fall a particularly way, without much of an effort/campaign to persuade us to stay!
RE: The State of the UK Union in 2022 - The Silent Majority - 15-02-2023 21:53
(15-02-2023 14:42 )HannahsPet Wrote: Alex Salmond ,Alex Salmond Alex SalmondEck was on the radio tonight, putting the boot in. He could hardly contain his glee
think Kate Forbes is back now
Forbes might be back for votes but Swinney's still standing in as Finance Secretary.
I used to think Sturgeon was a decent politician, even if I didn't agree with her, but the last couple of years have been one fuck-up after another. This is long overdue.
She was right about one thing. A lot of people now hate her guts so much it was affecting the independence campaign.
The big worry now, from that point of view, is that they might elect someone likeable.
RE: The State of the UK Union in 2022 - The Silent Majority - 15-02-2023 22:01
(15-02-2023 21:07 )southsidestu Wrote: It would be a rather unusual move for a centre left social democratic party to elect Forbes, an anti abortion evangelical christian as its leader, especially as they rely heavily on youth enthusiasm for pushing for Indy2
A lot of the support for independence comes from people who might otherwise be described as right wing conservative. They hold their nose and vote SNP because they want independence.
A Kate Forbes type figure would suit them just fine.
RE: The State of the UK Union in 2022 - southsidestu - 16-02-2023 11:34
Yes but in order to win a straight yes/no referendum you need to appeal to a majority of voters therefore your project needs to be a big tent. Enthusiasm for Indy is most prevelant in younger voters who put more stock in social issues than their older peers. Evangelic Christianity and big tentism do not go well together
RE: The State of the UK Union in 2022 - The Silent Majority - 16-02-2023 13:54
(16-02-2023 11:34 )southsidestu Wrote: Yes but in order to win a straight yes/no referendum you need to appeal to a majority of voters therefore your project needs to be a big tent. Enthusiasm for Indy is most prevelant in younger voters who put more stock in social issues than their older peers. Evangelic Christianity and big tentism do not go well together
The thing with big tents is, it's hard to keep tabs on everyone. While they're luring the young in one side, a lot of the older, and female, voters are bailing out the other over her handling of the transgender bill.
There were some rumours flying around about the time of the Queens death that were never reported. They seem to be resurfacing again, but I better not repeat them as it's allegedly the subject of a super injunction
Maybe it's about to run out...
RE: The State of the UK Union in 2022 - HannahsPet - 16-02-2023 14:17
something about a 100k loan heard something about it and her husband but very quiet
its like Zaharwai and his tax affairs
RE: The State of the UK Union in 2022 - The Silent Majority - 16-02-2023 14:24
^ No, no, no. You're waaaaay off. Much juicier than that
RE: The State of the UK Union in 2022 - HannahsPet - 16-02-2023 14:43
(16-02-2023 14:24 )The Silent Majority Wrote: ^ No, no, no. You're waaaaay off. Much juicier than that
what Wee Jimmys is like her name sake and is a swinger
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RE: The State of the UK Union in 2022 - Tumble_Drier - 16-02-2023 16:42
(16-02-2023 14:24 )The Silent Majority Wrote: ^ No, no, no. You're waaaaay off. Much juicier than that
Watch out for Super Injunctions
RE: The State of the UK Union in 2022 - The Silent Majority - 16-02-2023 20:50
(16-02-2023 16:42 )Tumble_Drier Wrote: Watch out for Super Injunctions